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Old 11-19-2009, 09:01 AM   #1
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How many of the active participating members here actually paint or are just business owners who dont get involved in the actual painting/finishing?

If you do just the business end, how long has it been since you've switched over?

I've been wrestling with a decision for a few weeks now, but to be honest I'm leaning to just "retiring" and try to get out of the business altogether.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:51 AM   #2
 
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I probably work physically about 1/3 of the time while estimating, billing, picking up stock, and checking jobs the other 2/3. However, I think I will pick up the physical end a bit more this coming year.
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I work the industrial side along with my employees. Need to be there. Too much can go wrong. It is a big account.
On the residential side I work around 70%.
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I work 8-10 out of 50-60 I put in. I am setting it up so I solely manage my work. I don't want to be slinging paint at 50, l want to be managing.
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If you are capable of retiring and want to you should in my opinion. Enjoy yourself, do all the things you envisioned earlier on in life. All I can hope for is to do the same when my time comes. As for your question. I am in the bucket the majority of the time with a plan to be out in a year or two.
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I am in the bucket as you guys and gals say.
I do it all, as it is just me.

I'll retire when my body tells me too. I'll probably die while doing a job
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out of the bucket, for about five plus years. I do on a very rare occasion pick up a brush. Wolf you might really enjoy running the buisness side, I know I do.

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Well I do it all, but that is going to change next year.
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What's your plans john
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Well if I can hold on until the ecomomy starts to take off, and I think it will next summer. (Cross my fingers), I want to do more bidding and get some guy's to do most of the heavy work for me. There should be a lot of good painters still out of work, so that's a plus.
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You know the only problem for me if I don't work is, I start putting on the pounds and thats not good for me.
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You know the only problem for me if I don't work is, I start putting on the pounds and thats not good for me.
if you dont work more time to workout, nothing like the feeling of a good workout in the middle of the day.
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Wolf,

With your recent "incident" you may find either option right for you. Retirement or only management.

Personally I tried the owner only option many years ago. Wasn't for me. I've always been a hands on kind of guy. And now being solo, it's what fits me.

Many years ago I was talking to an old friend - grew up with him. He first started with me as a summer grunt for a framer/roofer. He got more serious into the building end. Swung a hammer for many a year. Started own company and was a working GC, then just estimates/sales/management. He was talking about the pro's and con's of being only management, I realized it wasn't my cup of tea.

Dig deep into the soul, brother, and see what fits you the best.



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I am of the hands on working type for now.
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Well if I can hold on until the ecomomy starts to take off, and I think it will next summer. (Cross my fingers), I want to do more bidding and get some guy's to do most of the heavy work for me. There should be a lot of good painters still out of work, so that's a plus.
John, would love to brainstrm with you. We both have the same goals.
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I do both. I would love to be out of the bucket and just manage, but i have found with the guys I have got leading by example is the easiest ways to earn more money for my company as it sets the pace for them, and gets me more work accomplished, so what i work more hours than my guys, I am the owner, and that should be the case. Besides I have a passion for painting still as I am still 24 but i can imagine with time the passion will shift towards other aspects of the industry. For now I find working on site all day, take care of phonecalls in the early evening and estimates, meetings, colour consultations and everything else can take place nights or on Saturdays. (I still have time for myself to get 3 nights of hockey in per week and still get wings with the guys) I find it tiresome but to keep building I feel that it won't be as rewarding to succeed if you don't put in the effort.
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^^^Exactly how I felt and with 30+ years on you, I still feel today. In a way, I feel fortunate that with me it's not about the money for a reason to keep going. That's not to say I feel that way about the business. I have never gauged my success by the dollar figure I earned, rather than the quality and self-satisfaction of the work I did. (Old school huh?)

And I understand totally where Bill is coming from.
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For now I find working on site all day, take care of phonecalls in the early evening and estimates, meetings, colour consultations and everything else can take place nights or on Saturdays.


Dayam, my hat off to you sir. That "everything else" you mention, for me, takes up more time than 40 hours per week so if I put it off for evenings and Saturdays and painted all day, I'd need 35 hours per day.
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I am in the bucket as you guys and gals say.
I do it all, as it is just me.

I'll retire when my body tells me too. I'll probably die while doing a job

Me too.
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I'm 43 and still in the bucket. I spent three years managing the buisness, ended it about five years ago. I came to the conclusion that with my management/personality style, I make more money in the tools.....
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