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Old 07-15-2011, 04:31 PM   #41
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to me turpentine smells better then thinners..............has that ''works gettin done'' type of smell ya know
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Old 07-15-2011, 07:51 PM   #42
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real men huff ''turpentine''
How about Jasco Brush Cleaner? Thaat stuph willl deminisssshh yor brane sellls reel faste....
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I quit drinkin myself..........February, when I quit smokin i quit drinkin cause i only drank cause i smoked an only smoked cause i drank.............i was a mess man lol ........
I gave up drinking 2 years ago. I usually find something I like and do it to death. Collecting peoples money has been my new hobby.
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I gave up drinking 2 years ago. I usually find something I like and do it to death. Collecting peoples money has been my new hobby.

FUNNY!

BTW, drinking is NOT a hobby, it's a way of life. They don't whiskey "Aqua Vitae" for nothing



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i get it cheap from yard sales an estate sale etc etc .........use it to thin oil paint an clean out my brushes

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For other uses, see Turpentine (disambiguation).
Turpentine (also called spirit of turpentine, oil of turpentine, and wood turpentine) is a fluid obtained by the distillation of resin obtained from trees, mainly pine trees. It is composed of terpenes, mainly the monoterpenes alpha-pinene and beta-pinene. It is sometimes known as turps.
The word turpentine derives (via French and Latin) from the Greek word τερεβινθίνη terebinthine, the name of a species of tree, the terebinth tree, from whose sap the spirit was originally distilled.[1]
Mineral turpentine or other petroleum distillates are used to replace turpentine.


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One of the earliest sources was the terebinth or turpentine tree (Pistacia terebinthus), a Mediterranean tree related to the pistachio.
Important pines for turpentine production include: Maritime Pine (Pinus pinaster), Aleppo Pine (Pinus halepensis), Masson's Pine (Pinus massoniana), Sumatran Pine (Pinus merkusii), Longleaf Pine (Pinus palustris), Loblolly Pine (Pinus taeda) and Ponderosa Pine (Pinus ponderosa).
Turpentine distilled from the California pines such as Ponderosa Pine (Pinus ponderosa) and Gray Pine (Pinus sabiniana) yield a form of turpentine that is almost pure heptane.[2]
When producing chemical wood pulp from pines or other coniferous trees with the Kraft process, turpentine is collected as a byproduct. Often it is burned at the mill for energy production. The average yield of crude turpentine is 510 kg/t pulp.[3]
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1912 postcard depicting harvesting pine resin for the turpentine industry


The two primary uses of turpentine in industry are as a solvent and as a source of materials for organic synthesis.
As a solvent, turpentine is used for thinning oil-based paints, for producing varnishes, and as a raw material for the chemical industry. Its industrial use as a solvent in industrialized nations has largely been replaced by the much cheaper turpentine substitutes distilled from crude oil.
Canada balsam, also called Canada turpentine or balsam of fir, is a turpentine which is made from the resin of the balsam fir.
Venice turpentine is produced from the Western Larch Larix occidentalis.
Turpentine is also used as a source of raw materials in the synthesis of fragrant chemical compounds. Commercially used camphor, linalool, alpha-terpineol, and geraniol are all usually produced from alpha-pinene and beta-pinene, which are two of the chief chemical components of turpentine. These pinenes are separated and purified by distillation. The mixture of diterpenes and triterpenes that is left as residue after turpentine distillation is sold as rosin.
Turpentine is also added to many cleaning and sanitary products due to its antiseptic properties and its "clean scent".
In early 19th-century America, turpentine was sometimes burned in lamps as a cheap alternative to whale oil. It was most commonly used for outdoor lighting, due to its strong odor.[4] A blend of ethanol and turpentine added as an illuminant called burning fluid was also important for several decades.
Turpentine has long been used as a solvent, mixed with beeswax or with carnauba wax, to make fine furniture wax for use as a protective coating over oiled wood finishes (e.g., lemon oil).
In 1946, Soichiro Honda used turpentine as a fuel for the first Honda motorcycles as gasoline was almost totally unavailable following World War II.[5]
[edit] Hazards

Turpentine is an organic solvent. Its vapor can irritate the skin and eyes, damage the lungs and respiratory system, as well as the central nervous system when inhaled, and cause renal failure when ingested, among other things. Being combustible, it also poses a fire hazard.
[edit] Medicinal elixir

Turpentine and petroleum distillates such as coal oil and kerosene have been used medicinally since ancient times, as topical and sometimes internal home remedies. Topically it has been used for abrasions and wounds, as a treatment for lice, and when mixed with animal fat it has been used as a chest rub, or inhaler for nasal and throat ailments. Many modern chest rubs, such as the Vicks variety, still contain turpentine in their formulations.
Taken internally it was used as treatment for intestinal parasites because of its alleged antiseptic and diuretic properties, and a general cure-all[6][7] as in Hamlin's Wizard Oil. Sugar, molasses or honey were sometimes used to mask the taste. Internal administration of these toxic products is no longer common today.
Turpentine was a common medicine among seamen during the Age of Discovery, and one of several products carried aboard Ferdinand Magellan's fleet in his first circumnavigation of the globe.[8]
Turpentine was a common additive in cheap gin until the 20th century and gave it its characteristic juniper berry flavor without the need for pricier distillations with aromatic spices and berries.[9]
coincidentally or cosmically, depending on your choice of mood altering substance for the evening, I read this exact wiki immediately after I posted what you replied to.

When I use oil, I throw away my brushes after. Yeah its 12-15 bucks, but using 5 bucks of thinner to clean a 12 dollar brush seems pointless. And I don't need thinner to clean up any mess cuz I don't make any.

Pro tip: use cooking oil to wash alkyd/oil products off of yourself. Much more user friendly than solvents on skin.
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coincidentally or cosmically, depending on your choice of mood altering substance for the evening, I read this exact wiki immediately after I posted what you replied to.

When I use oil, I throw away my brushes after. Yeah its 12-15 bucks, but using 5 bucks of thinner to clean a 12 dollar brush seems pointless. And I don't need thinner to clean up any mess cuz I don't make any.

Pro tip: use cooking oil to wash alkyd/oil products off of yourself. Much more user friendly than solvents on skin.

yeah i agree, only time ill ever buy thinners is if the customer if footing the bill for materials then i use it like water .........other then that i get it all at estate sales for $1 per small can or maybe $2 for larger one...........people practically give that stuff away these days

ill have to try the cookin oil thing .....
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I used to use kerosene to clean my brushes. Would use the three bath system so it would last and last (and no environmental dangers with disposal). And cheaper than thinners or mineral spirits.

Turps would make them all gummy anyway.

The oils in the kerosene would also help maintain the bristles.



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I used to use kerosene to clean my brushes. Would use the three bath system so it would last and last (and no environmental dangers with disposal). And cheaper than thinners or mineral spirits.

Turps would make them all gummy anyway.

The oils in the kerosene would also help maintain the bristles.
Why did you stop using it? What do you use now?
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I stopped painting as a livelihood

I now only install wallcovering. All my materials are now waterborne (Gardz, prep coat, 1-2-3, etc)

although, when I do small painting tasks around the home with solvent based coatings, I do use the same system.



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About two months ago the district rep of my supplier was telling me about a new brush cleaning product that was initially being released in limited markets. He felt it was pretty amazing stuff and if I recall properly, zero VOCs. Will have to check with him again to see what it was and how it's performing.
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Damn I avoided reading this thread for a week but my curiosity got the best of me...Now I just feel dirty having read half of it.
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If it's called KS Pro I have half a gal you can have. Crap- ruins bristle brushes almost as much as water, has the consistency of yogurt. Might cut the paint ok- but Ill use spirits when i seldomly use oil, And I settle mine out too. reuse for ever.
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If it's called KS Pro I have half a gal you can have. Crap- ruins bristle brushes almost as much as water, has the consistency of yogurt. Might cut the paint ok- but Ill use spirits when i seldomly use oil, And I settle mine out too. reuse for ever.
Don't know if that's it or not. Will check with him on Monday.
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Damn I avoided reading this thread for a week but my curiosity got the best of me...Now I just feel dirty having read half of it.
Go take a shower.
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Uhhh... not going there.
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joseywales a bit late...............were talkin paint thinners now
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Has any one else used kerosene or even tapped a little heating oil out of the tank ?

As the old Alka Seltzer ad said, "Try it, you'll like it"



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Has any one else used kerosene or even tapped a little heating oil out of the tank ?

As the old Alka Seltzer ad said, "Try it, you'll like it"

an old time furniture guy keeps beatin my ear about it but i dont have ready access to it and always forget to pick some up when the chance presents itself..............
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an old time furniture guy keeps beatin my ear about it but i dont have ready access to it and always forget to pick some up when the chance presents itself..............

Buy a gallon of diesel fuel next time you're at the filling station.



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