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Old 02-20-2010, 05:00 PM   #41
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i tell them i dont want them to be wearing a jtp shirt in the bar acting stupid, or at a crack den, or on americas most wanted, or on cops getting chased.

If that is the kind of employees you hire, you could start a nice side business as a bail bondsman.
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i wore white t shirts with my logo/company info on the back for many years.

this year i sprung for nice polos with the logo on the back and the left chest area.

you will think this is nuts but no bs>>>> my guys always want to wear my company shirts, but i refuse to let them.

i give them free shirts from the paint store (i never wear em)

i tell them i dont want them to be wearing a jtp shirt in the bar acting stupid, or at a crack den, or on americas most wanted, or on cops getting chased.
All my guys wear my own shirts at all times.

They're informed how to act when wearing them.

Most of the guys I'd hire typically won't be caught in those situations
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It's got to be white's while working on a job.
I have forgotten to pick up my whites on many occasion due to them being washed over the w/end.
I have travelled back home to get them or gone to the nearest paint shop to buy new, rather than 'feeling naked and looking un-professional' all day.

I would never turn up at a prospective customers home in whites to bid a job
JMO, but WTF!!! You aren't going there to work, so why wear whites???
They know you are a paint firm because they've called you off your biz card/referral/truck lettering, you turn up in the said sign written van/truck emlbazened with XYZ painting, you don't need to wear the whites to give the final bit of proof ''look missy, I'm a real painter man.''

I appreciate I am not in the States and you guys are different, but if you wore whites to my home to bid my job I would Pmsl Overalls are for the working job site only.
But... if it works for you don't fix what ain't broke!!!

Just my humble opinion.
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I wonder what Fresh Coat(Kevin) wears.
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I appreciate I am not in the States and you guys are different, but if you wore whites to my home to bid my job I would Pmsl Overalls are for the working job site only.
Mistcoat:

I see we are getting you to speak proper english. "Used to be "bibs and braces", now it is overalls.

Next we will get you to spell colour correctly.
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It's got to be white's while working on a job.
I have forgotten to pick up my whites on many occasion due to them being washed over the w/end.
I have travelled back home to get them or gone to the nearest paint shop to buy new, rather than 'feeling naked and looking un-professional' all day.

I would never turn up at a prospective customers home in whites to bid a job
JMO, but WTF!!! You aren't going there to work, so why wear whites???
They know you are a paint firm because they've called you off your biz card/referral/truck lettering, you turn up in the said sign written van/truck emlbazened with XYZ painting, you don't need to wear the whites to give the final bit of proof ''look missy, I'm a real painter man.''

I appreciate I am not in the States and you guys are different, but if you wore whites to my home to bid my job I would Pmsl Overalls are for the working job site only.
But... if it works for you don't fix what ain't broke!!!

Just my humble opinion.
I don't wear overalls, just white pants and a company T-shirt.
Wearing whites gives the customer the impression that they are getting to know the guy who will be painting their home, and they feel they can trust you to come into their home.

Some slick salesman coming in, I find customers are less comfortable buying from, even if they like the guy because they have no idea who is actually doing the painting.

Some large companies have dedicated salesmen who don't touch a brush so it's obvious they wouldn't wear whites, but many people have seemed relieved once I told them I'm the guy painting their home.

White's made it obvious you're actually painting, and you seem less like the slick salesman trying to make a commission.

I deon't want to get changed after work into nice clothes on my way to an estimate anyways, especially if I've still got paint on my hands etc.
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I don't wear overalls, just white pants and a company T-shirt.
Wearing whites gives the customer the impression that they are getting to know the guy who will be painting their home, and they feel they can trust you to come into their home.

Some slick salesman coming in, I find customers are less comfortable buying from, even if they like the guy because they have no idea who is actually doing the painting.

Some large companies have dedicated salesmen who don't touch a brush so it's obvious they wouldn't wear whites, but many people have seemed relieved once I told them I'm the guy painting their home.

White's made it obvious you're actually painting, and you seem less like the slick salesman trying to make a commission.

I deon't want to get changed after work into nice clothes on my way to an estimate anyways, especially if I've still got paint on my hands etc.
I hear what you're saying BC, but I really do fail to see how the HO will trust you anymore wearing whites than turning up at the door in your biz shirts (logo'd) and a pair of clean work trousers that you'd wear under your overalls. I wear Snickers work trousers/black with my biz shirts to bid jobs. They know I'm still the painter cos I don't wear a suit. I'm still in work wear less the whites.

By the sounds of it in your last sentence you turn up at a bid in you daily work whites. ???
Do they have paint on them? If they do, do you really consider that professional? I only ask because you said you don't like to change after work.
Would you like your mechanic to pick up your car and drive it to the garage to be fixed in oily overalls?
Much the same turning up in the techni-coloured overalls walking round someones home.

BTW, I am not targeting you good Sir! Just putting a voice across and throwing stuff out there
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I see we are getting you to speak proper english. "Used to be "bibs and braces", now it is overalls.

Next we will get you to spell colour correctly.
Shhh!!!

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I hear what you're saying BC, but I really do fail to see how the HO will trust you anymore wearing whites than turning up at the door in your biz shirts (logo'd) and a pair of clean work trousers that you'd wear under your overalls. I wear Snickers work trousers/black with my biz shirts to bid jobs. They know I'm still the painter cos I don't wear a suit. I'm still in work wear less the whites.

By the sounds of it in your last sentence you turn up at a bid in you daily work whites. ???
Do they have paint on them? If they do, do you really consider that professional? I only ask because you said you don't like to change after work.
Would you like your mechanic to pick up your car and drive it to the garage to be fixed in oily overalls?
Much the same turning up in the techni-coloured overalls walking round someones home.

BTW, I am not targeting you good Sir! Just putting a voice across and throwing stuff out there
Yes, I do my quotes in whites with paint on them, but if I know I have a quote that evening I'm not going to grab the dirtiest ones in the pile. I try to keep them fairly clean as it is, then take the cleanest ones to wear the day I have a quote. It is different if I'm doing something that will get me very dirty but I keep pretty clean during the day.

This is of course just my experience. I used to do quotes in proper pants and a polo, I closed more deals in white's, customers were more at ease. I don't know 100% why this seems to happen, but it's worked best for me.

Main thing I can think of, is that they know they are talking directly to the person painting their home, and it seems like a smaller more intimate company rather than a larger company just trying to pump out volume.

It might even just be a comfort thing with the person doing the selling. I am confident in white's, if somebody decided to try quoting in whites and was uncomfortable doing so, customer would ultimately have less confidence because of this.

I have always ran a small company, and this is simply my experience. MAybe part of the reason is that the customer already usually has a great referral in place as well, so no need to try and act professional, my demeanor and attitude does that anyways.

Just keep doing what works! If you are getting work now, then don't change things up, it's probably different for everyone.
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Pants?!
Dang Wussies....

All my crews have to wear kilts (white, of course), as they are the only type of lower body work garment that Real Men & Women wear



Freedom of movement, comfort, and utility are bar none
The professionalism projected is unmeasurable
Not to mention the Work Kilt positively screams: I've got balls of steel and I ain't afraid to use them
Most of my customers dig that

Though I'd prefer at least a white wife-beater for the top half, in my company tattoos are considered acceptable upper body garments provided the tattoos cover at least 75% of the upper body, and are at least 75% white

Another reason for "whites":
In my company Carpies wear beige


And welders wear black


That way no carpies get asked to paint (by clueless homeowners), and no painters get asked to weld

Plumbers, however, must wear coveralls (preferably denim) that go at least up to the shoulder line (to avoid the dreaded...well you know what)

Sparkies must wear whatever-the-hell-they-want
(just please don't leave some open circuit or whatever lying around that will kill me when I touch it...BTW, we love you guys, you are the best!!!!!!!!!)
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You'd be surprised at how many options there are with the UtiliKilt
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Pants?!
Dang Wussies....

All my crews have to wear kilts (white, of course), as they are the only type of lower body work garment that Real Men & Women wear



Freedom of movement, comfort, and utility are bar none
The professionalism projected is unmeasurable
Not to mention the Work Kilt positively screams: I've got balls of steel and I ain't afraid to use them
Most of my customers dig that

Though I'd prefer at least a white wife-beater for the top half, in my company tattoos are considered acceptable upper body garments provided the tattoos cover at least 75% of the upper body, and are at least 75% white

Another reason for "whites":
In my company Carpies wear beige


And welders wear black


That way no carpies get asked to paint (by clueless homeowners), and no painters get asked to weld

Plumbers, however, must wear coveralls (preferably denim) that go at least up to the shoulder line (to avoid the dreaded...well you know what)

Sparkies must wear whatever-the-hell-they-want
(just please don't leave some open circuit or whatever lying around that will kill me when I touch it...BTW, we love you guys, you are the best!!!!!!!!!)

Are those things real?? Utilikilt
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Just got some of those $10.00 coverall/jumpsuits (white). Thinking I can arrive at job in my khaki's, logo shirt, then after unloading, set up, put on coveralls. After done, take of, still look good, in case i have to go on estimate after leaving job. I think that's a plan, will see how it works!
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Are those things real?? Utilikilt
yup...http://www.utilikilts.com/
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Amazing! I wonder what the customer response would be if a guy showed up sporting one of those bad boys?

Someone try it out and track your ROI and let me know how it goes? Any takers? Sev?
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