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Old 05-13-2016, 01:46 PM   #1
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I like trying new products and read the recent thread about this one with interest. Just had a conversation with my rep on a number of topics especially this product. I'm starting a project soon where I'd like to give this a go on the doors/trim. He gave me a good price and added the test drive coupon to boot, but looking to get any feedback from those of you that have already used it. Will be a repaint over (probably) SW latex acrylic, white over white, brush/roll.

Yes, PacMan, I would love to try Cali products, but just not readily available to me right now.


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Old 05-13-2016, 09:16 PM   #2
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As much as i love a good cliff hanger......i have to ask......what is the product ?
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Its in the title water based urethane.

I have used it for oak cabinets recently. It is a nice product a little slow on recoat and drytime but brushes out really well.
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The SW store manager was telling me about this new waterborne urethane a few weeks ago. As he described it, it was SW's crossover to BM's Advance.
Overnight recoat time (like Advance), and good brushing characteristics.

My question to him was about the cure time. Last time I used Advance on a new set of cabinets, the doors stuck to the face frames after 7 days of dry time. It was a medium gray color and I'd heard that could be an issue with Advance. That was the last time I used Advance.

So I'm curious how the SW waterborne urethane does as far as curing.
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I reinstalled doors after 5 days with felt bumpers and no issues.
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If you're brushing and rolling it dries to the touch much faster than when sprayed. Compared to BM Advance the open time and workability is also a lot better and it doesn't say or drip as easily as Advance.

It's also the only Waterbased enamel I've used where I didn't feel the need to add extender.

At this point I've used it on two projects and had excellent results. One thing I should mention is that Green FrogTape didn't stick well to this paint, but 3M 2093EL worked well.




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In before Pacman SW hate post.
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Its in the title water based urethane. .
Acrolon 100 ? Or is it actually called SW water based acrylic urethane.
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Pro Industrial Waterbased Alkyd Urethane Enamel. I did mistype the product name. It is an alkyd and (like BM Advance) "resists" yellowing. I am going to use it on an upcoming project or 2, but the Muralo Ultra products are super nice and being ceramic are not supposed to yellow at all. I've only used the Muralo once on a residential repaint, but was very impressed with the results on doors and trim.


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We brush , rolled a few gallons on recent job. It's at best OK nothing to write home about and the finish looks no where even close to Advance. I do like the Pre Cat single component Expoxy though. Love California paints the best paint no one ever heard of. There marketing sucks.
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Pro Industrial Waterbased Alkyd Urethane Enamel. I did mistype the product name. It is an alkyd and (like BM Advance) "resists" yellowing. I am going to use it on an upcoming project or 2, but the Muralo Ultra products are super nice and being ceramic are not supposed to yellow at all. I've only used the Muralo once on a residential repaint, but was very impressed with the results on doors and trim.


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I've been using Muralo Ultra for all of my trim packages for quite a while, the Ultra Matte is great on walls. Not to sound like a Muralo commercial but their exterior Ultimate is excellent as well.
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I've been using Muralo Ultra for all of my trim packages for quite a while, the Ultra Matte is great on walls. Not to sound like a Muralo commercial but their exterior Ultimate is excellent as well.


Good information and thanks. I like everything (so far) about Muralo, but the price. Homeowner wanted me to one coat the trim to "freshen up" as I was doing a whole house interior repaint of the walls. The hide was impressive. Advance white does not hide as well so when "one coating" Muralo gets the win (despite the price).
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We brush , rolled a few gallons on recent job. It's at best OK nothing to write home about and the finish looks no where even close to Advance. I do like the Pre Cat single component Expoxy though. Love California paints the best paint no one ever heard of. There marketing sucks.
I'm with you. SW comped me a gallon to try and I wasn't impressed. I did half a cabinet doors with the multi surface and half with the water based oil polly whatever and the multi surface was better in every category.

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Multi surface is not meant for wood.
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MSA not "meant" for wood?? Does that mean it won't stick? If it sticks to "marginally prepped surfaces" like block and steel. Why wouldn't work on wood? I think if anything it's overkill for wood. Unless someone knows of some failure issue...
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I don't think MSA "knows" or cares that it's being painted on wood--if it's primed wood. I could be wrong.


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I really liked SW pro industrial water based alkyd urethane enamel. It sags far less than Advance or ProClassic. Does not cover well in the lighter (Dover White) colors.

Has anyone tried it in a darker color/deep base? Wondering how hard it is? I've used SW ASE in an almost black on my own banister 3 years ago and it still feels soft. I've done cabinets in the pre-cat epoxy in a dark color and never thought is was as tough as the lighter color of ProIndustrial water based alkyd urethane enamel. Needs a shorter name....
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Multi surface is not meant for wood.
The pds doesn't mention wood at all that doesn't mean it can't be used on it.
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The spec sheet does not cover wood thats all i am saying so any failure and nobody will care
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The pds doesn't mention wood at all that doesn't mean it can't be used on it.
This is true but when i asked why its not on there they said they dont recommend it.
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