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Old 05-17-2018, 11:08 AM   #21
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Yup. So why are people still having problems trying to roll into a wet cut?????? No one follows directions that's why. Some research a few years ago showed that fewer than 20% of ALL paint users ever read the instructions on the can. That's how the paint companies get away with 5hit like paint and primer in one. And Aura becomes un-workable.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:56 AM   #22
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I never tried to roll into a semi wet cut with aura. I saw it recommended on here to cut in and let dry. No complaints regarding that aspect.

My issue is two fold. How can something that dries so fast and goes on naturally
thick sag so easily.

My experience is you have to basically dry brush it on not to sag on the cut. And it has to go on perfect on the first stroke cause you don't get a second chance as it's already starting to flash off.

Between regel select or regal (the original orginal regal was a vinyl acrylic that' was utc tinted correct?) Which is the better overall product in matte? Both in terms of application and final finish? I assume the select would be more durable?
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Between regel select or regal (the original orginal regal was a vinyl acrylic that' was utc tinted correct?) Which is the better overall product in matte? Both in terms of application and final finish? I assume the select would be more durable?
Correct. Regal (classic) matte technology 15 years old already. Application wise? Seems like the consensus among painters I have talked to is everyone preferred the old formula's.
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I remember when Aura was introduced the word was let the cut in dry before rolling. That's all well and good. But how about rolling a big ceiling? Should I let each quadrant or whatever section dry because I can't keep a wet edge?

I've not used a lot of Aura, but the little bit I did kinda turned me away from it. Regal Select is my first choice.


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Old 05-17-2018, 10:18 PM   #25
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Correct. Regal (classic) matte technology 15 years old already. Application wise? Seems like the consensus among painters I have talked to is everyone preferred the old formula's.
I've rolled hundreds of ceilings using the old Regal Wall Satin flat. That used to be the goto ceiling paint in the 90's. Could roll any ceiling any size without a care in the world. It would dry down in an hour or 2 and look perfect.

Touch-ups were cake. the next day you could do a blow-out patch in the middle of that ceiling and just spot roll and the patch would disappear.

Decorators White was the stock color of choice but some liked the Super White, also a stock color.

That's why I was ambushed recently by the Regal Select flat. Never used it before and was expecting something closer to the old Regal.
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Interesting, I've never had sags with any BM product while cutting and rolling. Lots of sags on doors if I let anyone else spray Aura on them though!


Ben line picture frames so I don't use that. Ultraspec 500 seems to be too high of a sheen for eggshell. Aura Matte needs to finish roll to be done all in same direction, just down strokes. Regal eggshell on walls is perfect sheen, easy to work with and touches up pretty well. Regal Pearl on trim. It's my go to now for custom residential. And ScuffX matte for commercial is pretty close to eggshell and very durable. Flows like crazy too.
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Totally agree with HJ61. Been using regal select line for the last three years exclusively. Never experienced any issues as mentioned regardless of painting a room wall by wall, cut and then immediately roll or cutting out the whole room and then rolling. Doesn’t matter if the cut is wet or dry. Always end up with a flawless finish. I do love Ultra Spec 500 flat stock white for all my ceilings. That paired with a high-quality lambswool is the bomb.
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I've never had a problem with Aura. I don't use it a lot, because there's just not much commercial space for it, but I dont find it very sag happy. Ultraspec 500 is probably my all time favorite paint outside of PPG Manor Hall. Ultraspec is inexpensive, covers incredibly well, lays down beautifully and has a rich finish.

I'll be honest though, I've painted so many things and for so long that I just don't see why people pay 50-60 a gallon when you Speedhide and Ultraspec perform almost as well or better (I'm looking at you SuperPaint) and most people will change their colors before they lose their durability.
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Interesting, I've never had sags with any BM product while cutting and rolling. Lots of sags on doors if I let anyone else spray Aura on them though!


Ben line picture frames so I don't use that. Ultraspec 500 seems to be too high of a sheen for eggshell. Aura Matte needs to finish roll to be done all in same direction, just down strokes. Regal eggshell on walls is perfect sheen, easy to work with and touches up pretty well. Regal Pearl on trim. It's my go to now for custom residential. And ScuffX matte for commercial is pretty close to eggshell and very durable. Flows like crazy too.
Have you tried the Ultra Spec 500 low sheen? They used to call it 'low sheen eggshell'. It's the perfect sheen for my taste. If it was more durable that would be my go-to paint for walls. I use it for prepping Real Estate for Open Houses. Most people don't care what quality of paint you use if they are moving out. Ultra Spec 500 is the lowest quality I'll use but it is fantastic to work with and so easy to apply right out of the can.

BEN is OK to use but you have to condition it first with extender and a dash of water. I prefer the Regal Select matte over Ben.

BTW I always let cut-ins dry before rolling ANY paint and have never had picture framing.
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@Mr Smith Give promar 200 a go in a deeper color and you'll see picture frames all day long. I worked for a company that used the stuff all the time.>>>Off topic from BM >>>
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When the customer absolutely demands the best stuff on the market, its Aura... When it absolutely definately needs to be 1 coat.. its aura...

Its expensive, but it performs better than any latex or oil base product I have ever used (aside from that lead based stuff I used with my dad 20+ years ago)

It doesnt like to go on heavy, and you have to roll it out.. and you get a small window of going back... overall, I find it to be the crown jewel of exterior latex... but you have to be able to work with in its boundaries.
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