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Old 09-19-2013, 11:19 AM   #1
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I'm trying to be added as a painter for a local developer. He likes my preliminary pricing and is asking for a bid on a house he's building. Taking advice from this forum I am bidding on wall square footage.

Looking at the blue prints ... I understand why many painters give a price based on the square footage of the home.

Is there any easy way to figure wall square footage ceilings are vaulted (9' to 13.5') or with stairways?
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If you have the drawings check the scale the architect used and purchase a ruler with that scale and measure. Calculate linear feet and then multiply by the height.
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Nope, no easy way.

Measure dimensions (as Star describes) and do the math. Stair ways and vaulted ceilings are a PITA.

Although, if a vaulted ceiling goes from 10 foot to 15 foot high, you can take the median (12.5) to multiply the width of the wall and that will give you the wall's area. Same in a stairwell where the walls go from the stairs (angled) up to a straight flat ceiling, take the measurement of the median, and use it as your height. (13 feet at bottom of stairs to 7'6" at top would give a median of 10' 3" )

AND, I find with such configurations, you have to add a good percentage than if they was "normal" walls do to accessing the angles - forever needing to change height of ladders or staging.



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it's basic geometry is all like would be in a H.S. school book. if you have elevations and a reflected ceiling plan you just make a little geometry problem. Draw in a parallel line, make some right triangles. figure out the square foot. A stairway for instance is already a right triangle so you figure the wall it's on like it was square then take out for the stairs , which all it is is a right triangle.
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Or, to make it easier on yourself, do what I do. Take the highest point on the wall and multiply it by that. I'm not getting paid to do math, and in an average house it doesn't add that much to the total footage. Or, do what Bill suggested and use the median.
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I look at the prints and give a sqft price. For my area builders expect a floor sqft price so that is what I give.
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Or, to make it easier on yourself, do what I do. Take the highest point on the wall and multiply it by that. I'm not getting paid to do math, and in an average house it doesn't add that much to the total footage. Or, do what Bill suggested and use the median.
This, the overage will be more than made up in difficulty if you use the same rate for a standard square foot.

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Floor square ft x 2.9 gets you real close and that includes ceilings
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I've found that floor square foot times 3.5 gets you closer. At least for 8 foot ceilings. 3.8125 for 9 foot and 4.125 for 10 foot. Then just adjust your price for excess prep and whatnot.
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Actually if you just figured a 10x10 room with 8 ft. Ceilings it would be 4.2 less door and window openings. So yours is closer than the 2.9 I had said.
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Ya, but if you factor a whole house that has more open floor plans (typically) it's pretty close to 3.5. You lose walls in random rooms most of the time.

Kitchen will only have 2-3, hallway will only have 2, dining room 2, etc.

It's not perfect, but it's the base I use to start my estimate for all vacant houses I look at. If they want different colors in every room and all that jazz; that's when I take the time to measure it out.
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