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Old 07-30-2014, 02:54 PM   #1
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Hey everyone, trying to establish some baselines. How long to paint an installed hollow metal door with frame by brush/roller method, figuring pre-primed shop "gray" and, in my experience, at a minimum, 2 coats. Thanks
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Six a hour.
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It shouldn't take long.
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8 hours per door

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Six a hour.
I didn't see door and frame
I'll give you three a hour.
One coat
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Hey everyone, trying to establish some baselines. How long to paint an installed hollow metal door with frame by brush/roller method, figuring pre-primed shop "gray" and, in my experience, at a minimum, 2 coats. Thanks
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JP could do it alot faster than that.
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Wow, that sure is a wide array of times, not to mention a few must have thought I was asking about price. No, I'm working on a formula for prevailing wage government jobs. Just trying to ask around and get a lot of answers, then do some math and, hopefully, get a steadily improving grasp of man hours as they relate to each type of task. Always trying to hone my estimating skills. Thanks to everyone that answered my question.
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Wow, that sure is a wide array of times, not to mention a few must have thought I was asking about price. No, I'm working on a formula for prevailing wage government jobs. Just trying to ask around and get a lot of answers, then do some math and, hopefully, get a steadily improving grasp of man hours as they relate to each type of task. Always trying to hone my estimating skills. Thanks to everyone that answered my question.

How can you come up with an estimate if you have no parameters?

Are the doors flat? Windows? Are they pre hung? Door knobs? Mag locks? Finished site or new builds? What kind of paint? Government building so if it specs 62 coats you're going to have to do 62 coats. The list is endless but to say on the estimate 8 doors a day you could be in for some long or short days.
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12 minutes per door both sides including sanding. 15 minutes per frame both sides including sanding. This assumes the door are flat panel with minimal sanding needed. 6 panel doors will take about 16 minutes.
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In the question I did say installed. I meant with the hinges, closer, knob, plate, etc.. I was not thinking a lighted slab, just flat, commercial, HM door w/frame. As far as paint, it's usually a DTM or even a Pro Mar 200 or Speedhide. They usually have a two coat requirement for a factory primed door. My guys can usually do one, with a professional outcome, no ropes or major flashes, etc., in about 2.5 - 3 hours, set-up to walk-away. Thanks
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My honest answer is 20 mins per coat, both door and frame (including sanding)

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2-3 hours to do a single door and frame 2 coats both sides????? They need to get their azzes in gear. In an 8 hour work day you will get about 6.5 actual "working" hours out of 1 person. So you are saying in 1 day that your guys will only crank out 2 doors per man.
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2-3 hours to do a single door and frame 2 coats both sides????? They need to get their azzes in gear. In an 8 hour work day you will get about 6.5 actual "working" hours out of 1 person. So you are saying in 1 day that your guys will only crank out 2 doors per man.
There big doors and they use artists brushes.
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If they are smooth, roll them and lay/tip them off with a paint pad. 3/4 inch nap and you will dip once when you start and once in the middle of the door. Could probably stretch it out, but it's faster to dip.

You can do both sides and the outer edge in about 4 minutes, assuming the flooring is masked and the hardware is removed.

I'm still not sure if it's faster to brush the inside edge or tape the hinges and roll + lay off.
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4 min each thats 15 frames an hour with a long brake 6 working hours. Thats day thats 90 frames a day. Your hired.
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4 min each thats 15 frames an hour with a long brake 6 working hours. Thats day thats 90 frames a day. Your hired.
I was talking about smooth doors, not frames.
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Your still hired. And i am just monkeying around.
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