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Old 03-16-2010, 04:06 AM   #21
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I am not a big fan of green paints I used Benjamin Moore brand Natura, I was not impressed at all.
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You can easily seo your cities for "green" painters/painting. The problem is that not many people will type in those keywords. I would still seo it, because anyone that googles it, will hire you. Emphasize that you specialize in green coatings, but that they cost the same as "regular." Right now, not too many people will pay premiums for green stuff.
Here is a web site I did for a painter in NJ who wants to not only dominate the green painting market but goes one step further with allergy friendly services:

www.njgreenpainter.com

I think he has some interesting ideas to appeal to a certain kind of customer
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Here is a web site I did for a painter in NJ who wants to not only dominate the green painting market but goes one step further with allergy friendly services:

www.njgreenpainter.com

I think he has some interesting ideas to appeal to a certain kind of customer
Dominate the green market?
I think he is missing the whole point of being eco-friendly and sustainable.
It is not about world domination.
At the same time, consumers are smart, give them some credit.
He may be ok with a very narrow market such as non allergenic painting.
But green is not only about allergens and VOCs.
Using exclussively plastic dropcloths and promoting it craetes a big problem.
Plastic takes forever to biodegrade and even though he protects the select few customers homes from other peoples allergens dust etc.
he is not making it easy for the rest of us, by calling that green.
Plastic also uses raw materials to be created (corn derrived biodegradeables are not a good option)

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All painting sundries used are from recycled materials when possible.
Not only he does not take it to the next level,
but he does not even cover the basics:

Eliminate at the source, reduce
Reuse
Recycle

There is at least some basic understanding that at the very least,
green is environmentally friendly.

Please alert that person to this, if necessary.
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Dominate the green market?
I think he is missing the whole point of being eco-friendly and sustainable.
It is not about world domination.
At the same time, consumers are smart, give them some credit.
He may be ok with a very narrow market such as non allergenic painting.
But green is not only about allergens and VOCs.
Using exclussively plastic dropcloths and promoting it craetes a big problem.
Plastic takes forever to biodegrade and even though he protects the select few customers homes from other peoples allergens dust etc.
he is not making it easy for the rest of us, by calling that green.
Plastic also uses raw materials to be created (corn derrived biodegradeables are not a good option)

In the same page:


Not only he does not take it to the next level,
but he does not even cover the basics:

Eliminate at the source, reduce
Reuse
Recycle

There is at least some basic understanding that at the very least,
green is environmentally friendly.

Please alert that person to this, if necessary.
Yes dominate the green market in that locale. I can't be the first person to point this out but there is "green" in the sense of having a sustainable planet and then there is the green market (or marketing.) It is a Madison Avenue concept. It is selling the sizzle as well as the steak. This way someone can use up all sorts of natural resources driving a Prius yet think they are somehow saving the planet thanks to advertising. It is buying a $4 cup of coffee at Starbucks falsely confident that they are saving a rain forest somewhere.

If I may go on about this false green concept a bit. I have a whole s-load of customers who want grass cloth wallpaper because it is "green." But it is almost all from China and the coal fired electricity plants belch smoke in the air during its manufacture and all sorts of pollution is produced getting it to the shores of North America. When does the green part start?

My website customer obviously does not care a fig about being green....he is selling to a niche. Notice he says that he will use non-green paints upon request. It is all customer driven here, George

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My website customer obviously does not care a fig about being green....he is selling to niche. Notice he says that he will use non-green paints upon request. It is all customer driven here, George
I know he doesn't care.
The problem is, it really shows and it comes across as very opportunistic.
I do agree with you about that specific market niche and the Prius crowd.
By offending their ultra sensitive but otherwise astute consciousness will get him nowhere, absolutely nowhere.
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I know he doesn't care.
The problem is, it really shows and it comes across as very opportunistic.
I do agree with you about that specific market niche and the Prius crowd.
By offending their ultra sensitive but otherwise astute consciousness will get him nowhere, absolutely nowhere.
It comes across as opportunistic to you because you are into this. IMO the larger part of the population probably thinks, "How wonderful!"

I think a good percentage of the population doesn't want to "be green", they want to "buy green." By this I mean if they can spend a little more money on something and not have to change anything about their behavior then they will spend and feel good about themselves.

To take the Starbucks example, that company has sold millions of consumers on the idea that they are being socially and environmentally conscious in South America. Yet the dopey customers don't think that the disposable cups with plastic tops they are buying millions of times a day aren't non-green items. Even though the company encourages people to fill their own thermos that number is tiny compared to the numerous non-green transactions per day around the Starbucks world.

We have seen this behavior before in centuries past with the Church's sale of indulgences. More recently there is the sale of carbon credits.
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And yet this is a category called Green Painting Practices.

Not green marketing, deception, green washing, or even Al Gore.

Of course, I agree with the point on Starbucks, enen oil companies
call themselves green now.
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Haven't read thread. But investing in some spatulas is wise. You can scrape the buckets for all paint, so that energy and materials it took to make the paint was not wasted. THAT alone could help the "environment".
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are you the parodi that does the articles in pwc...i always enjoy those...thouhg i don;t hang paper...
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Dominate the green market?
I think he is missing the whole point of being eco-friendly and sustainable.
It is not about world domination.
At the same time, consumers are smart, give them some credit.
He may be ok with a very narrow market such as non allergenic painting.
But green is not only about allergens and VOCs.
Using exclusively plastic dropcloths and promoting it creates a big problem.
Plastic takes forever to biodegrade and even though he protects the select few customers homes from other peoples allergens dust etc.
he is not making it easy for the rest of us, by calling that green.
Plastic also uses raw materials to be created (corn derived biodegradeables are not a good option)

In the same page:


Not only he does not take it to the next level,
but he does not even cover the basics:

Eliminate at the source, reduce
Reuse
Recycle

There is at least some basic understanding that at the very least,
green is environmentally friendly.

Please alert that person to this, if necessary.


This plastic part has bothered me from the get go where it pertains to the lead paint fiasco.Does the EPA realize that it is generating countless tons of lead coated plastic sheeting? Sorry for the thread jack.
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are you the parodi that does the articles in pwc...i always enjoy those...thouhg i don;t hang paper...
Yes, although my earlier columns were more enjoyable.
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This plastic part has bothered me from the get go where it pertains to the lead paint fiasco.Does the EPA realize that it is generating countless tons of lead coated plastic sheeting? Sorry for the thread jack.
I haven't heard about the EPA doing an environmental impact study of landfills being increased with plastic sheeting from the new lead law job sites. The amount of plastic sheeting will be prodigious.
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I unfortunately live in CA where the VOC rating is extremely low, and for the most part I have noticed that the paint is crap. It has adhesion problems, it fades faster, its scuffs easier, and its freaken expensive in comparison to premium paints. The only place here in southern CA that you can buy a higher VOC rated paint is San Diego. Sooooooooooo, in conclusion, I am not the biggest fan of low or no VOC rated paints.
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I unfortunately live in CA where the VOC rating is extremely low, and for the most part I have noticed that the paint is crap. It has adhesion problems, it fades faster, its scuffs easier, and its freaken expensive in comparison to premium paints. The only place here in southern CA that you can buy a higher VOC rated paint is San Diego. Sooooooooooo, in conclusion, I am not the biggest fan of low or no VOC rated paints.
Most if not all manufacturers invest more money in low VOC paints now.
Some of the better paints from most of them like:

PPG most of their lines, ICI most of their lines, SW Duration and other lines, Benjamin Moore Aura and most lines etc.
Almost everyone makes their best lines low VOC now.
If the above and more is crap, it is not the paint that is the problem.
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Did a quick google for local companies offering "green painting," "environmentally friendly painting," and "eco painting." It seems NO one in my area is offering any eco painting services. Could gain a competitive advantage if you jump on this wagon now?!
where abouts are you situated? We ship products anywhere in Australia and often overseas as well though frieght can become an issue if large amounts of product is required.
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Alot of the time people refuse to try "green" paint simply because they don't believe that it could possibly have the same coverage, pigment choices etc as conventional paint. However, in this day and age you can get environmentally friendly/non-toxic paint that actually does a better job than alot of the harmful paints on the market. All without that painfull headache and other side effects from the solvents and other nasties in convetional paint.
Then you have companies that plant trees to offset some of their emissions and lower some of the VOC's in their paints before consequently calling their products "environmentally friendly" or "green". This can make it difficult to define what environmentally friendly paint really is. It could be interesting to see where the painting industry goes in the future.
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i'm going full on organic with my business. Gonna offer colored clay troweled walls. Use organic dyes from plants, and local clay from my county. Organic and local. Just mix with water and trowel that clay on there. (Actually this is a viable method). But I imagine there would be something found wrong with this somehow. Maybe the clay would have lead in it from the runoff of the landfills from all the new lead regulation projects.
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I'm really glad the industry has been moving towards a more responsible/ Eco friendly direction ... it's alot easier on our bodies and on the planet. No longer do I use alkyds or epoxy of any kind. I'd rather educate the customer than be talked into toxic products that do us harm. The new acrylic formulations have never been better and I'm thankful for it.
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