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Old 10-02-2009, 06:27 PM   #21
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Yeah: Sorry but I haven't found one of your products I would not only not pay for, but I usually charge clients more it they want me to use it, and also if they have used it on decks, I don't take the job. Man you need to start selling a product that is good. You are trashing the paint market.
Thanks for welcoming us to the community johnpaint. We appreciate your honest feedback. We're here to listen to you and work with everyone to improve our products so that we can make your job easier. Hopefully we'll be able to change your opinion of us.
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Old 10-02-2009, 06:28 PM   #22
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Welcome and good luck! You are going to need thick skin to weather this bunch. Anyone interested in starting a PT pool?
We're looking forward to the challenge and are eager to begin connecting with all of you in a way that will benefit both of us.
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To be frank, I really was not aware that there was a pro division at Behr. Maybe I should start visiting HD more.
y.painting, we're dedicated to serving our professional customers. We'll be happy to give you an overview of all our professional services and connect you with a local sales representative. Please let us know if you're interested.
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I'll start ducking the stones thrown my way, but I think the Berh matte finish is a nice product. I don't go out of my way to buy it, because there is no support at the store and I pay the same price as the homeowner.
  1. Where is mine or any other pro's incentive to use it?
  2. What kind of supprt do you offer? Warrany? Reps that come to the job site? Writing paint specifications for large jobs?
  3. Whom do we contact with an issue? Is it a complicated phone bank with a large number of buttons to push?
  4. Do you have reps out in the field? Or do you intend to service complaints from a computer and phone?
  5. Any intension to starting treating pro's like other manufacture's do?
We're glad you're happy with the product bikerboy. We have a number of new resources available for professionals, including our new Web site - http://behrpro.com. There are a number of tools to help your business, as well as all the information on our products and services, including DIRECT TO PRO, our new service offering free direct delivery to your job site and guaranteed order fulfillment in no more than 72 hours. We also offer volume pricing and factory tinting. If you would like, we can help get you in touch with your local sales representative. We’ll also be here to help you. Good questions.
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Old 10-02-2009, 06:55 PM   #25
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We want Behr to be the paint of choice for all professionals and can't wait to work with all of your members to help achieve this goal.


Well, first of all you will have to make a product that professionals would use on a regular basis. I am not at all sure that there are that many out there at this time, if I am wrong,I am sure that I will hear about it.
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Welcome Nick. I think its great of Behr to step up and listen to the guys who spread paint on a daily basis for input. What we like, what we dont like, what makes us money, what doesnt and why and going as far as doing feasibility studies on product to reach the maximum impact potential.

I am most impressed with Behrs new ULTRA line up for both inside and out. Impressive stuff and a pleasure to spread. I have no problem whatsoever recommending or suggesting the ULTRA line to my customers.
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Paint companies are hurting world wide. It's not stange that they want to open their market up, the problem with them is, they have marketed to the ho, and people that don't really know a good product when they see it.Now you have SW and all the other paint companies marketing to the ho, and the pond is smaller than it use to be.
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I don't believe the hype that they care about us painters at all, it's just that they need the business right now, besides how are they going to win us when they know we know better.
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Thank you, Nick. I appreciate the response. I think this is a good step for Behr. You guys have the resources and distribution to correct the negative PR among professionals. Its encouraging to see your company taking that first step by using a grass roots approach to sample what pros are seeking in a product.
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So Behrpro: Can I ask you how long you have been with Behr? Are they asking you to seek out forums like ours?
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Behrpro:

How many years experience with painting/mixing colors on average does the typical worker in the paint department have? And, how much knowledge about painting procedures do you think the average worker has?
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Behr Guy

If you'll give me discounts and free apparel (tshirts, hats, pens, whites etc etc ) I will use Behr products exclusively

Im serious.
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If you'll give me discounts and free apparel (tshirts, hats, pens, whites etc etc ) I will use Behr products exclusively

Im serious.
what if you need a dtm? don't think behr has that...
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what if you need a dtm? don't think behr has that...
Tj,

ya lost me, what is a dtm? Is it the same thing as ATM ( not a cash machine ), but with different letters?
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I have never touched that stuff anyway. I just fix holes, prime and paint
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Never tried Behr. Also, not much of an HD fan. All I could say Nick, is listen to what some here are saying. I'm from a central state, and what I hear about Behr products here (paint talk), is also what I hear from other painters I know. Try maneuvering towards the contractor views, and not the HD DIY'ers, thats a whole completely different market.

Glidden is a good paint, but prefer it for more industrial apps. The company is ran pretty efficient.

I personally prefer Benjamin Moore, Pratt & Lambert, and Pittsburgh Paints. Never had any probs on apps, and customers were always satisfied with the finished product. These 3 also give me a wide range of quality and pricing for the customer to choose from.

Quality makes up for lost time and profit.
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Welcome Nick. I think its great of Behr to step up and listen to the guys who spread paint on a daily basis for input. What we like, what we dont like, what makes us money, what doesnt and why and going as far as doing feasibility studies on product to reach the maximum impact potential.

I am most impressed with Behrs new ULTRA line up for both inside and out. Impressive stuff and a pleasure to spread. I have no problem whatsoever recommending or suggesting the ULTRA line to my customers.
Thanks for the warm welcome jack pauhl, and the support of our new product. We welcome all feedback, bad or good.
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Thank you, Nick. I appreciate the response. I think this is a good step for Behr. You guys have the resources and distribution to correct the negative PR among professionals. Its encouraging to see your company taking that first step by using a grass roots approach to sample what pros are seeking in a product.
We're glad that so many have been open to our participation. We're here to learn from everyone and offer our assistance when it's needed.
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So Behrpro: Can I ask you how long you have been with Behr? Are they asking you to seek out forums like ours?
johnpaint, I'm working on behalf of a committee of people at Behr focused on addressing the needs of professionals. You've got the ear and support of many people, from marketing to sales. I'll be the one you're interfacing with. Collectively, we have many years of experience in the industry. We've decided to seek out forums like Paint Talk to improve our communication with the pro audience and learn from what you guys have to say.
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