Behr Pro Support - Page 5 - Paint Talk - Professional Painting Contractors Forum
CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, IT'S FREE!
Go Back   Paint Talk - Professional Painting Contractors Forum > Painting Forum > New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-13-2009, 05:00 AM   #81
very senior member
 
chrisn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hagerstown md
Posts: 9,842
Rewards Points: 48
Thanks: 3,616
Thanked 5,521 Times in 3,389 Posts
View chrisn's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BehrPro Support View Post
The new resin technology provides the high performing adhesion as primers generally do and at the same time providing the durability of a top coat. Therefore, adhesion and top coat performance in one.

You want us to believe that? This Behr technology has not been discovered by any of the other manufactures out there? I would still like to know how the primer magically adheres to the wall first before the " durable" topcoat gets there.The whole concept just makes no sense to me. I am sure the home owners are buying it up though or you would not be marketing it. I really think you need to stick to your marketing profile and quit trying to convince professional painters that you have a product that we would want to use.
chrisn is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to chrisn For This Useful Post:
FL.BM.DEALER (10-13-2009)

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. PaintTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 10-13-2009, 11:31 AM   #82
Senior Member
 
johnpaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,187
Rewards Points: 2,000
Thanks: 1,340
Thanked 1,031 Times in 753 Posts
View johnpaint's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Dang chrisn: 4:00 am
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
johnpaint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2009, 07:06 PM   #83
very senior member
 
chrisn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hagerstown md
Posts: 9,842
Rewards Points: 48
Thanks: 3,616
Thanked 5,521 Times in 3,389 Posts
View chrisn's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnpaint View Post
Dang chrisn: 4:00 am
Well,it was actually 5 AM here, I don't sleep much.
chrisn is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 10-23-2009, 06:41 AM   #84
Born To Be Mild
 
bikerboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: MD
Posts: 4,956
Rewards Points: 2,000
Thanks: 2,450
Thanked 1,704 Times in 1,000 Posts
View bikerboy's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by caibangzi567 View Post
MTS Converter can convert HD video to general video, convert general video to HD video, convert among HD videos, such as HD TS, HD MTS, HD WMV, HD MPG, HD MPEG4, H.264/AVC , HD AVI, HD ASF, etc. And it is also a powerful M2TS Converter and TS Converter

When are you guys going to stop pushing that piece of junk software? Nobody here wants to buy your overpriced underperforming turd.

__________________
People who say they want a government program because “I don’t want to be a burden to my children” apparently think it is all right to be a burden to other people’s children. Thomas Sowell
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bikerboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 12:34 AM   #85
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 157
Rewards Points: 150
Thanks: 8
Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts
View flowjo's Photo Album My Photos
Default

behr isnt that bad its definitely not the worst out there but there is always room for improvement.

i think the major issue many professionals have is that it is sold at HD and all of us know that HD does not supply superior tools or product they cater to the diy or mid range crowds which there is nothing wrong with that but you cant expect a true pro to use these products when they know for a fact that better products exist, tried tested and true... behr just does not sit on that pedestal.

the second i pour the gallon i know what kind of paint im dealing with and behr is very much a low to mid range product there is no denying it. there is something about really good paint ... covers well, cuts and glides amazing, very light to roll, doesnt have a strong scent, dries very evenly all these things are what makes a wicked product to work with and makes painters happy behr doesnt do any of those things very well but then again doesnt do them the worst.

just make a paint that pros want to use and recommend even if it costs a little more so be it all the good stuff costs extra anyways
flowjo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 06:23 AM   #86
very senior member
 
chrisn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hagerstown md
Posts: 9,842
Rewards Points: 48
Thanks: 3,616
Thanked 5,521 Times in 3,389 Posts
View chrisn's Photo Album My Photos
Default

[quote=flowjo;98186]behr isnt that bad its definitely not the worst out there but there is always room for improvement.


What would be worse?
chrisn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 10:44 AM   #87
PinheadsUnite
 
daArch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: almost there
Posts: 30,724
Rewards Points: 1,696
Thanks: 13,929
Thanked 17,336 Times in 10,141 Posts
View daArch's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisn View Post

What would be worse?
What is in my toilet bowl after a night eating ........ oh never mind, I won't get graphic.



__________________
"Glazed Donuts Are the Building Blocks of the Universe"

"Are we having fun yet"
daArch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 01:20 PM   #88
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,883
Rewards Points: 1,000
Thanks: 144
Thanked 618 Times in 404 Posts
View Last Craftsman's Photo Album My Photos
Default

I was really hoping BehrPro would address the examples I gave a few posts back where 3 out of 4 people said that the whole 1 coat Behr thing did not work out at all for them.

This thread has been a ghost town for about two weeks now.
__________________
Quote:
I have to write something here in order to post
Last Craftsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 03:59 PM   #89
Born To Be Mild
 
bikerboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: MD
Posts: 4,956
Rewards Points: 2,000
Thanks: 2,450
Thanked 1,704 Times in 1,000 Posts
View bikerboy's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Don't think you will see them back. It has reached the point of diminishing returns for them.
__________________
People who say they want a government program because “I don’t want to be a burden to my children” apparently think it is all right to be a burden to other people’s children. Thomas Sowell
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
bikerboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 04:35 PM   #90
Senior Member
 
johnpaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,187
Rewards Points: 2,000
Thanks: 1,340
Thanked 1,031 Times in 753 Posts
View johnpaint's Photo Album My Photos
Default

You can only do so much when you have products like that.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
johnpaint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 04:37 PM   #91
.
 
Workaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Huntsville Alabama
Posts: 17,818
Rewards Points: 2,486
Thanks: 6,245
Thanked 6,705 Times in 4,460 Posts
View Workaholic's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bikerboy View Post
Don't think you will see them back. It has reached the point of diminishing returns for them.
That is the history for these Behr pushers, they log in and then fade off. This guy lasted a lot longer than most. He could be back but probably moved on to another forum. Buying out of a box store is just not practicle for most of us. I know i like to have the regular people mix my paint and answer my questions, not some kid or guy that they just moved to that department that does not know anything about the products they sell.

Last edited by Workaholic; 10-31-2009 at 04:40 PM..
Workaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2009, 12:01 AM   #92
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,883
Rewards Points: 1,000
Thanks: 144
Thanked 618 Times in 404 Posts
View Last Craftsman's Photo Album My Photos
Default

[quote=Workaholic;98242]This guy lasted a lot longer than most. /quote]


You gotta admit, the guy could take some licks though.

I think people would have been less fierce on him if he wouldn't have doled out so many middle of the road political answers. That didn't help his case any.

Funny thing is though, he probably went to a couple board meetings and showed some people pretty high up in Behr all the stuff written here.



Pretty funny. Normally in life you never get a chance to bitch directly at the manufacturers that make your life miserable. This forum is the exception.
__________________
Quote:
I have to write something here in order to post
Last Craftsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2009, 04:35 AM   #93
very senior member
 
chrisn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hagerstown md
Posts: 9,842
Rewards Points: 48
Thanks: 3,616
Thanked 5,521 Times in 3,389 Posts
View chrisn's Photo Album My Photos
Default

[quote=Last Craftsman;98273]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Workaholic View Post
This guy lasted a lot longer than most. /quote]


You gotta admit, the guy could take some licks though.

I think people would have been less fierce on him if he wouldn't have doled out so many middle of the road political answers. That didn't help his case any.

Funny thing is though, he probably went to a couple board meetings and showed some people pretty high up in Behr all the stuff written here.



Pretty funny. Normally in life you never get a chance to bitch directly at the manufacturers that make your life miserable. This forum is the exception.


But will they listen, I think not.
chrisn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2009, 05:09 PM   #94
.
 
Workaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Huntsville Alabama
Posts: 17,818
Rewards Points: 2,486
Thanks: 6,245
Thanked 6,705 Times in 4,460 Posts
View Workaholic's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Craftsman View Post


You gotta admit, the guy could take some licks though.

I think people would have been less fierce on him if he wouldn't have doled out so many middle of the road political answers. That didn't help his case any.

Funny thing is though, he probably went to a couple board meetings and showed some people pretty high up in Behr all the stuff written here.



Pretty funny. Normally in life you never get a chance to bitch directly at the manufacturers that make your life miserable. This forum is the exception.
Yeah he put in a lot more time than most Behr pushers. Most join, talk about how great it is and ignore all the negitive comments that get posted.
Workaholic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 01:43 PM   #95
Member
 
BehrPro Support's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: California
Posts: 35
Rewards Points: 25
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
View BehrPro Support's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Last Craftsman,

We’re still playing close attention to what’s going on.

The paint and primer in one was created to increase productivity. It reduces the total number of coats without compromising the quality of the coverage. In many cases more than one top coat may be required. Though this depends on the job and application. For instance, we recommend additional coats for repaired or uncoated surfaces to lock in stains. Drastic color changes may also need a primer coat. Our color chips denote which deeper colors need a custom tinted primer coat. This information can all be found on the label, and our Web site.
__________________
Nick for BEHR Professional Products and Services

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
BehrPro Support is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to BehrPro Support For This Useful Post:
bikerboy (11-04-2009)
Old 11-04-2009, 08:49 PM   #96
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,883
Rewards Points: 1,000
Thanks: 144
Thanked 618 Times in 404 Posts
View Last Craftsman's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BehrPro Support View Post

We’re still playing close attention to what’s going on.
Ok. Could you comment on the 4 quotes I took from consumer reports that were right in a row on consumer reports website?

I would be really interested to see what your response is to those testimonials. 75% of those people are quite unhappy not only with the paint, but with the fact that they were advised that they would not need a primer.

Would you care to comment on this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BehrPro Support View Post
The paint and primer in one was created to increase productivity.
Everyone understands why you did it. The issue on the table is that it doesn't work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BehrPro Support View Post
It reduces the total number of coats without compromising the quality of the coverage.
All I know is, a lot of people would disagree with that statement.
__________________
Quote:
I have to write something here in order to post
Last Craftsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 09:05 PM   #97
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ohio
Posts: 3,297
Rewards Points: 2,000
Thanks: 930
Thanked 441 Times in 388 Posts
View KLaw's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Craftsman View Post
Ok. Could you comment on the 4 quotes I took from consumer reports that were right in a row on consumer reports website?

I would be really interested to see what your response is to those testimonials. 75% of those people are quite unhappy not only with the paint, but with the fact that they were advised that they would not need a primer.

Would you care to comment on this?



Everyone understands why you did it. The issue on the table is that it doesn't work.



All I know is, a lot of people would disagree with that statement.
LC: It seems you are basing a lot of your argument on a 3 out of 4 statistic. I am pretty sure HD could provide a completly and more dominatuing stat that supports their argument. Anybody can minipulate (or I mean analyze stats to support their claim).

The real question is: Does it work? Does anyone on this thread have experience using this product in the field? These are the opinions that hold weight - IMO. Screw the stats.
KLaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 10:49 PM   #98
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,883
Rewards Points: 1,000
Thanks: 144
Thanked 618 Times in 404 Posts
View Last Craftsman's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fresh coat View Post
LC: It seems you are basing a lot of your argument on a 3 out of 4 statistic.
No, that's just the portion of my argument that I am asking BehrPro to respond to.

I also base my argument on what I and others in this forum have said about

Besides I found it interesting that without even having to cherry pick, I was able to find those 4 posts right in a row, on the first page about that product on consumer reports.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fresh coat View Post
Screw the stats
Did you actually read those quotes? I can't imagine any experienced painter reading those quotes and not seeing the significance of them.

I don't know that I would refer to those testimonials as "stats". Those are the personally written experiences of people who have used the product.

They did quite an excellent job describing what clearly is a result of needing a primer. Unless those reports are actually malicious anti-Behr propaganda from other companies, I would say those quotes are VERY valuable in describing the experience of using a product that is sold with the notion that does not need a primer.
__________________
Quote:
I have to write something here in order to post
Last Craftsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2009, 08:57 PM   #99
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ohio
Posts: 3,297
Rewards Points: 2,000
Thanks: 930
Thanked 441 Times in 388 Posts
View KLaw's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Craftsman View Post
No, that's just the portion of my argument that I am asking BehrPro to respond to.

I also base my argument on what I and others in this forum have said about

Besides I found it interesting that without even having to cherry pick, I was able to find those 4 posts right in a row, on the first page about that product on consumer reports.



Did you actually read those quotes? I can't imagine any experienced painter reading those quotes and not seeing the significance of them.

I don't know that I would refer to those testimonials as "stats". Those are the personally written experiences of people who have used the product.

They did quite an excellent job describing what clearly is a result of needing a primer. Unless those reports are actually malicious anti-Behr propaganda from other companies, I would say those quotes are VERY valuable in describing the experience of using a product that is sold with the notion that does not need a primer.
LC: Cool. No -I didn't even read the quotes prior to responding. I did check 'em out following your response though. You make a good point.

I did notice how you "hilighted" just about every sentence except for the the main one I asked. (The real question is: Does it work? Does anyone on this thread have experience using this product in the field? These are the opinions that hold weight - IMO.)

So, I'll ask it again. Anyone on this forum actually use this product and what are your opinions?


KLaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2009, 09:18 PM   #100
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,883
Rewards Points: 1,000
Thanks: 144
Thanked 618 Times in 404 Posts
View Last Craftsman's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fresh coat View Post
I did notice how you "hilighted" just about every sentence except for the the main one I asked.
That's correct. I only highlighted the portions of your post that were meant to specifically interact with me.

Your question is a good one however, and if anyone here can answer it, would help the dialogue.
__________________
Quote:
I have to write something here in order to post
Last Craftsman is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Last Craftsman For This Useful Post:
KLaw (11-05-2009)
Reply

Tags
None

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Behr Ultra? castlebond007 General Painting Discussion 12 10-04-2009 01:31 PM
What is the problem with Behr Paint? justdano Tools, Supplies and Equipment 37 07-26-2009 06:14 PM
New Behr Ultra Kelly Painting General Painting Discussion 7 06-20-2009 11:04 AM
Behr is no longer #1 DeanV General Painting Discussion 29 07-28-2008 01:24 PM
So, how is Behr doing? Wolverine General Painting Discussion 13 02-18-2008 09:32 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Our Pro Sites Network
ContractorTalk.com | DrywallTalk.com | ElectricianTalk.com | HVACSite.com | PlumbingZone.com | RoofingTalk.com