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Old 11-06-2009, 06:14 AM   #101
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So, I'll ask it again. Anyone on this forum actually use this product and what are your opinions?

I have, once,and IMO it is worse crap than their "normal" crapNow,I am not a lover of Behr but that is from actual experience, white over white and it still took 3 coats, crap, crap and more crap

Sorry about the underlined,hightlighted post, not my intention.
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Ok. Could you comment on the 4 quotes I took from consumer reports that were right in a row on consumer reports website? I would be really interested to see what your response is to those testimonials. 75% of those people are quite unhappy not only with the paint, but with the fact that they were advised that they would not need a primer. Would you care to comment on this?

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@Last Craftsman, we realize that not everyone is going to have a perfect experience with our products, but there are a number of different factors that could affect the performance. As you know, everything depends on the application and environment. We’re very explicit on the intended use of each product and instructions for the substrate. As we’ve said before, there may be many situations that require additional coats as a primer.

We recognize the value in this feedback. This can help us address issues with the product and the marketing of the product as well. What we would ask of you, @fresh coat and @chrisn, is to continue to provide us with details about your experience with our products. We appreciate the feedback and will try to address it.
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Old 11-09-2009, 09:52 PM   #104
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Yeah, like the concept doesn't work. Im not saying it can never be achieved, I am just saying your product hasn't achieved it.

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You have given so many political and evasive answers during the course of this thread, that I have lost all hope or notion that you are going to deal with us in a down to earth, straight forward manner.

I am sure it is not a stretch to assume that there are some others here who feel the same way also.

Giving political and evasive answers to almost every question that has been asked of you is not a great incentive for a demographic that traditionally avoids Behr products like the plague, to go out and buy some, try them again, and get back to you with the results.

If you can't even give us the respect of interacting with us on a genuine level, then you are going to get no where. I understand that you are in a position where you have to be a politician, and never relinquish to any notion that a particular Behr product(s) is totally substandard/acknowledge anything bad about a Behr product. But it just doesn't carry a lot of weight with real people if you are going to be a politician with your answers and interactions.
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I think it cool that he acknowledges their paint needs improving. He still hasn't sold me on it and most likely, no! I can say I will never be sold on it. But I always give credit to someone for acknowledging something they need improvement on. Every one deserves that and we all need improving. Now if they drop the ball from there. Then shame on them.
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Yeah, like the concept doesn't work. Im not saying it can never be achieved, I am just saying your product hasn't achieved it.



You have given so many political and evasive answers during the course of this thread, that I have lost all hope or notion that you are going to deal with us in a down to earth, straight forward manner.

I am sure it is not a stretch to assume that there are some others here who feel the same way also.

Giving political and evasive answers to almost every question that has been asked of you is not a great incentive for a demographic that traditionally avoids Behr products like the plague, to go out and buy some, try them again, and get back to you with the results.

If you can't even give us the respect of interacting with us on a genuine level, then you are going to get no where. I understand that you are in a position where you have to be a politician, and never relinquish to any notion that a particular Behr product(s) is totally substandard/acknowledge anything bad about a Behr product. But it just doesn't carry a lot of weight with real people if you are going to be a politician with your answers and interactions.

Thank you for putting into words much better than I ever could.I agree with all of the above.

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"What we would ask of you, @fresh coat and @chrisn, is to continue to provide us with details about your experience with our products. We appreciate the feedback and will try to address it."

I will say that you will never hear from me because I am no longer even going to experiment with any of your products. I know this will be a massive blow to your company but what can I say, I have been burned way to many times.I am sorry for this excessive loss in revenue to the Behr co but I am sure you will come up with even something better than primer and paint in the same can,maybe a self applicable paint? Just open the can and the magic paint goes right on the wall?
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I used Behr paint that was supplied by a homeowner about 4 years ago. It was to paint the exterior of their home which consisted of surfaces including t-111 (Inside a Florida room) soffit, fascia and the metal.

It was called Premium Plus Ultra Exterior I believe. It applied and covered pretty well on the previously painted t 111 siding that was in the Florida room. It dragged big time on the metal and did not cover that well on the rest of the house.

It was brushed and rolled on the entire house, but overall rating was a 3 out of 5. I have not had the chance to go back to Florida and see how it has held up, so that 3 star may be for naught.

I think if they allowed the paint contractors to exercise total decisions from their end and just do what we do, we could make due with their products. Maybe give out a "Home Depot" warranty versus the ones we give out when we use Sherwin Williams or Ben Moore?

I think if they got rid of that top dog paint company everyone is supposed to work under, then they would be more of a force to be taken seriously.


End result:

Would I use their paints on my clients homes? Nope...

Would I use their paints on jobs I acquired from their customers? Yes...

In the end you are not going to talk people who have their mind made up out of the HD marketing, so just do the job with the quality you do and earn the money.

In My Opinions Behr Rep...Drop the head paint company that works your division and allow each and every local HD police who their own paint contractors will be.

In my opinion...
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4thGen,

Thanks for the specific feedback.

Could you clarify what you’re talking about here?

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I think if they got rid of that top dog paint company everyone is supposed to work under, then they would be more of a force to be taken seriously.
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So, I'll ask it again. Anyone on this forum actually use this product and what are your opinions?

I have, once,and IMO it is worse crap than their "normal" crapNow,I am not a lover of Behr but that is from actual experience, white over white and it still took 3 coats, crap, crap and more crap

Sorry about the underlined,hightlighted post, not my intention.

Actually used some of the Premium Plus semi on some doors and trim a week ago. It sands ok, covers decent, but you need to add a splash of water for it to flow/level well. At an $18.00 per gallon price point, I think it is a good value.
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