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Old 01-13-2013, 09:08 PM   #1
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Hello painters. I'm from Mississauga Ontario. Been creeping on this site for a while now. Finally decided to join in all the fun. I have been involved in the industry for 17 years. My father ran a painting business and I started working for him in the summer since I was 13. He paid me $20 a day. I thought I was rich! At 18 I started working full time. Then at 25 I went out on my own. Worked the residential market for 2 years, then directed my focus to kitchen cabinet and furniture re-coating refinishing, and wood finishing. I love being part of the paint industry and wouldn't change anything. When I stumbled across paint talk a few years ago I found a wealth of knowledge and realized that there were people out there that loved paint and finishes just as much as I do. The deeper I dig into our trade I come to the understanding that I have so much more to learn. The depth of this forces you to be a student at all times. Any way that's just a little about me and my 2 cents.

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Welcome. Great introduction. Recently I've had a few cabinet and staining jobs. I really enjoyed it. They broke up the monotony that repaints can have.
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Welcome.I love staining and cabinet work.we don't get much call for it nowadays though.
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Ya I really enjoy it to. The before and afters are dramatic, and when you run your fingers across a beautifully laid down finish and it feels like silk that makes me very proud. I still do repaints and on site finishing tho, but 90% of my business is kitchens now.
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Welcome, and I'm glad we finally reeled you in!
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Welcome to the group. Nice intro!
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Hello painters. I'm from Mississauga Ontario. Been creeping on this site for a while now. Finally decided to join in all the fun. I have been involved in the industry for 17 years. My father ran a painting business and I started working for him in the summer since I was 13. He paid me $20 a day. I thought I was rich! At 18 I started working full time. Then at 25 I went out on my own. Worked the residential market for 2 years, then directed my focus to kitchen cabinet and furniture re-coating refinishing, and wood finishing. I love being part of the paint industry and wouldn't change anything. When I stumbled across paint talk a few years ago I found a wealth of knowledge and realized that there were people out there that loved paint and finishes just as much as I do. The deeper I dig into our trade I come to the understanding that I have so much more to learn. The depth of this forces you to be a student at all times. Any way that's just a little about me and my 2 cents.

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Do you spray your cabinets?
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Yes we spray. Kem aqua is my go to, and probably my favourite product. We have gone through hundreds of gallons of that stuff. It was a learning curve tho. It's a very sensitive product but once you learn it's capabilities and quirks that stuff bangs like ladesh!!
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Welcome! I lurked around for awhile as well before I decided to swim with sharks.
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Yes we spray. Kem aqua is my go to, and probably my favourite product. We have gone through hundreds of gallons of that stuff. It was a learning curve tho. It's a very sensitive product but once you learn it's capabilities and quirks that stuff bangs like ladesh!!
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what rig are you using to spray the KA? what are your set-up pressures and tip's? what primer works best with Kem Aqua? you should post something on cabinet spraying.
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what rig are you using to spray the KA? what are your set-up pressures and tip's? what primer works best with Kem Aqua? you should post something on cabinet spraying.
We spray all our doors in our shop with a C.A. Tech 14:1 h20 with a bobcat gun for our primers and a kremlin eos 30:1 hooked up to a kremlin inline heater for our top coats. Heating the material is a must IMO. We keep the shop temp regulated at 65. We spray top coats with a 413 tip at 600 to 700 psi fluid and around 20 psi for air depending on the day. You have to learn to adjust with the coating. Once you learn the nuances you will know when to add retarder or thin depending on humidity and temp. The inline heater has taken a lot of the guess work out of it tho. On site we go totally turbine. Airless sucks for water bourn lacquers. We have used a multi finish and a finish pro with ok results. Hvlp is great for on-site and I swear we can lay down a finish as good as our kremlin dose on-site with our capspray. We use the 4 stage 9600 capspray. We have a 6 stage 115 but find it over atomize the coating when using the 6 stage so we only use it at 4. We use fuji, ca tech, and accuspray hvlp turbine guns on site. For hvlp we spray with a #3 or a 1.5 tip for top coats and surfaces and a 1.2 for pigmented shellac.
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We spray all our doors in our shop with a C.A. Tech 14:1 h20 with a bobcat gun for our primers and a kremlin eos 30:1 hooked up to a kremlin inline heater for our top coats. Heating the material is a must IMO. We keep the shop temp regulated at 65. We spray top coats with a 413 tip at 600 to 700 psi fluid and around 20 psi for air depending on the day. You have to learn to adjust with the coating. Once you learn the nuances you will know when to add retarder or thin depending on humidity and temp. The inline heater has taken a lot of the guess work out of it tho. On site we go totally turbine. Airless sucks for water bourn lacquers. We have used a multi finish and a finish pro with ok results. Hvlp is great for on-site and I swear we can lay down a finish as good as our kremlin dose on-site with our capspray. We use the 4 stage 9600 capspray. We have a 6 stage 115 but find it over atomize the coating when using the 6 stage so we only use it at 4. We use fuji, ca tech, and accuspray hvlp turbine guns on site. For hvlp we spray with a #3 or a 1.5 tip for top coats and surfaces and a 1.2 for pigmented shellac.
I also own the kremlin 30-1 but have not used it for wb lacquers yet. i recently purchased it but haven't got a cabinet job to test it out. . i'd like to get the inline heater but can't justify the $1500 cost until i get a LOT more work.I'm going to get a hotplate to heat the paints. i just bought a used graco 395 finish pro and hope to put that to use as an on-site rig or as a backup to the Kremlin. you must mean 413 tip equivalent in the kremlin set-up? the number system is different than graco's.

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I also own the kremlin 30-1 but have not used it for wb lacquers yet. i recently purchased it but haven't got a cabinet job to test it out. . i'd like to get the inline heater but can't justify the $1500 cost until i get a LOT more work.I'm going to get a hotplate to heat the paints. i just bought a used graco 395 finish pro and hope to put that to use as an on-site rig or as a backup to the Kremlin. you must mean 413 tip equivalent in the kremlin set-up? the number system is different than graco's.
I have been using kremlins 09-094 which I think is a 413. The inline heater is so good, but I can understand the cost vs amount of work. Once you get more cab jobs I would get it for sure. I used a hot plate for a bit but you gotta babysit it a keep it moving. Gently stir it. I found it better to fill a fiver full of hot water and submerge the gallon in it for ten or fifteen mins. Once your ready to spray empty the fiver and put more hot water back in it but only fill it one third of a gallon high. Then put the gallon in it and the syphon tube in the material. As you use the material the water tilts the gallon so the syphon tube is always at the lowest point and always submerged. I found this a awesome way to spray gallons.
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I have been using kremlins 09-094 which I think is a 413. The inline heater is so good, but I can understand the cost vs amount of work. Once you get more cab jobs I would get it for sure. I used a hot plate for a bit but you gotta babysit it a keep it moving. Gently stir it. I found it better to fill a fiver full of hot water and submerge the gallon in it for ten or fifteen mins. Once your ready to spray empty the fiver and put more hot water back in it but only fill it one third of a gallon high. Then put the gallon in it and the syphon tube in the material. As you use the material the water tilts the gallon so the syphon tube is always at the lowest point and always submerged. I found this a awesome way to spray gallons.
have you tried the one gallon paint warmers?

http://www.toolexperts.com/one-gallon-paint-warmer.html
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have you tried the one gallon paint warmers?

http://www.toolexperts.com/one-gallon-paint-warmer.html
Haven't tried those yet. I know about the power blanket. Same idea but I thing they only make them for pails. I might order a few of these. Thanks for the link! Great price to!!
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What waterbourne lacquer do you use?

Do you use it over enamels or glazes?
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