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Old 11-11-2009, 07:39 AM   #1
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Hello all,
Looks like this is gonna be some good info.
Recently got back into applying paint after a 10 year hiatus.
Just can't handle the heavy framing work anymore and can't stand fluorescent lighting, so office type work is out....
Only thing I could find in Providence was work painting for a "real estate investor" who buys up foreclosures and get's them "fixed up" as fast and inexpensively as possible in order to get that Section 8 money comin' in.
Nasty working conditions (no running water, I bring my own...no heat or electricity..no prep allowed...I do it when no ones looking...no cutting in..wall paint right up to the face of the trim,..etc..)
Got this semi-retarded 24 year old tryin' to tell me the correct way to paint a room is: Trim first (?), then walls, and ceiling last....because it's faster 'cause you don't have to cut in the trim.
So, the first thing he does before I can even clear off all the old painted-over, busted up decrepit bit's of hardware from old blinds and curtains...before I can get any of that stuff off and fill the holes and do a little "speed-prep"...first thing he does is slap semi-gloss all over everything, making the rest of the job a major hassle and basically adding a few days to the whole process.....'cause it's faster....
Actually, it's 'cause he refuses to learn how to paint...
More interested in his cellphone and the rims on his jalopy cadillac..

I've got to be the only person in the world dealing with this, right?...right?...

Can't wait to hear the stories that'll make me feel better.
Honestly, I'm just lucky to be working and making three dollar an hour less than I was 10 years ago.

Yeah!....

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Old 11-11-2009, 08:42 AM   #2
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Welcome. Sounds like you will fit in real good here
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Sounds gritty. Grind through the job and keep slinging paint.
I go in this order if everything is getting painted Ceilings, trim walls.


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Welcome from St. Louis.

Same here: ceiling, trim, then walls (except baseboard is always last).
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Same here: ceiling, trim, then walls (except baseboard is always last).
I do the same now because of you lot

BTW, welcome from the UK
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Latex,

what are your aspirations? To remain at the bottom of the heap (take no offence please) or rise to a being a person delivering quality work?

And what is your plan for achieving that?

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Maybe there's a West Coast technique that's unique to California.
I was taught, Ceiling, Walls, and trim, baseboards,cabinets,etc.. last.
I figured that was 'cause you want to start with the flattest paint first 'cause it's easier to paint over flat paint, it has some tooth to it, as opposed to something shiny that needs to be roughed up in order to hold paint on top of it, right?
Ceiling paint is usually flatter than, say, am eggshell wall paint, and finally, the trim is always shinier than either the ceilings or walls.
And, the trim is.......well it's the trim. It's the cherry on top. The frosting. It's done last after everything else is done properly.

Maybe in the long run it doesn't matter but it sure is a pain in the ass having to cut around all these windows and doors that already have semi-gloss on them. The wall paint doesn't stick and I end up having to do it twice.

Way I see it.
Nothing takes longer than a shortcut and nothing costs more than a bargain.
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Well, right now, I'm at the top of the heap I'm at.
Personally, I don't want to be the best guy on the job.
I want to learn and always get better.
The last thing I want to be is a like these juveniles I'm working with (while at the same time, glad to have a job/don't get me wrong)....young, inexperienced, and totally convinced that I have nothing to learn.
I remember 20 years ago when I started restoring old Victorians in San Fran, and I sure didn't try to correct the older more experienced guys who had been doing it longer than I was alive. That would have been inconceivable to me to do that.
I shut up and learned stuff and it's a shame that that concept is pretty much gone now.
I really like painting. The carpentry, I'm kind of burnt out on and the wrists and elbows can't take it anymore, not the holding a brush over my head all day is completely painless.
I would like to either work with someone either older and more experienced or even younger and more experienced if that's possible, and learn to paint better, learn more about oils, and work in really nice places where the quality matters.
Also, I wouldn't mind making as much per hour as I did, say, 10 years ago.
Somehow that seems out of the question these days.
Thank god I saved when I was out west or I would be screwed now.

If you know of anyone looking for a responsible, hardworking guy who actually likes to paint and want's to get better at it and doesn't spend all day on a cellphone talking to who, I don't know, well.....that would be great.
Right now, I'm just glad to be working. Seems like an awful lot of guys aren't, so if I'm gettin' paid to paint over scotch tape and staples and food and dead insects and I'm told I'm wasting time if I try to clear that **** away before I soil my brushes...well, so be it. Now's no time to complain.
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Been there with the winterized homes, but here in Cleveland. Its a pain, but its work. Its actually easier to cut in the wall after the trim is done. The brush glides easily over an enamel paint as oppossed to flat paint, the brush will drag.
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There is. Here in California, you can usually get two 24 year old retards for the price of one.
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There is. Here in California, you can usually get two 24 year old retards for the price of one.
Watch out, those 24 year old retards might just be your competition one day.
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:43 AM   #12
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One day?
That day is today!
I can't believe the mess he makes and the guy who cuts the checks just doesn't care.
The kid grabbed a spray can of Killz(?) to paint some metal hinges on some cabinet doors (that's right..like I said...?...) and got overspray all over the glass.
No problem 'cause he did it fast.

So, I'm gonna lay it out right now.

Anyone know of any painting work with in a half-hour's ride of Providence,RI?
A job where you get fired if you F-Up?
A place where a guy with his own tools, who shows up a little early to get started on time, not stoned, not on his cellphone all day, who hustles and does good work?
I'd start my own business but I thinking the scene here is saturated, already, with licensed, insured painters already in business with reps who are scramblin' for work so I don't know if I wanna shell out the dough for a contractors license and insurance so 's I can paint over grease and food and dirt in a slum for 12 cash.
I'm inclined to suck it up, take the cash, add it to my dole and wait out the depression.
I'm ready to go to work if anyones knows anything steady.
The one thing about the guy I'm with now is he's got about a years worth of this kinda work. Seems he's buying another one of these dumps every week.
I'm probably just lucky to be workin'.
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One day?
That day is today!
I can't believe the mess he makes and the guy who cuts the checks just doesn't care.
The kid grabbed a spray can of Killz(?) to paint some metal hinges on some cabinet doors (that's right..like I said...?...) and got overspray all over the glass.
No problem 'cause he did it fast.

So, I'm gonna lay it out right now.

Anyone know of any painting work with in a half-hour's ride of Providence,RI?
A job where you get fired if you F-Up?
A place where a guy with his own tools, who shows up a little early to get started on time, not stoned, not on his cellphone all day, who hustles and does good work?
I'd start my own business but I thinking the scene here is saturated, already, with licensed, insured painters already in business with reps who are scramblin' for work so I don't know if I wanna shell out the dough for a contractors license and insurance so 's I can paint over grease and food and dirt in a slum for 12 cash.
I'm inclined to suck it up, take the cash, add it to my dole and wait out the depression.
I'm ready to go to work if anyones knows anything steady.
The one thing about the guy I'm with now is he's got about a years worth of this kinda work. Seems he's buying another one of these dumps every week.
I'm probably just lucky to be workin'.
keep rereading your last sentence....
welcome and best of luck....
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If you have a job now, I'd just suck it up, maybe start buying tools/equipment and getting the paperwork in order to start your own biz in the future.
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:09 PM   #15
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Yup. That's what I'm gonna do.
Now's no time to get ahead, or above, myself.
Times are tough and the '90's are a distant memory.
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