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Old 02-13-2013, 10:40 PM   #21
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My answer: Spray spray SPRAY. Leaves a better finish and depending on the situation is faster. And faster usually means more money in your pocket and good referrals. A weenie roller will generally be faster than brushing, spreads more.

it's also a personal preference too and also what the client, whoever they are, call for or expect as stated earlier.
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Put the paint on with roller then brush it.
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Hey everybody i have a question i need advise with i have been painting for about 13 years of and on. and i hired on with a paint crew with a college maintenance dept in the city i live in about a year ago. i like it so far but have an issue with an older painter that i work with he seems to be very knowledgeable about most painting techniques. we have disagreements about how a door jamb should be painted he believes the only way too paint an excisting metal door jambs is to use a 4 inch weenie roller and i have always brushed them with a 3 inch thin brush can i get some input or advise please i always thought that there is no wrong way of doing it. that every painter has different ways. should i just listen to him since he is more experienced and maybe i could learn new stuff. and be open to change or is he wrong and should i just tell him to back off.
Sounds to me like you are in a heck of a jam-b.
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This is maintenance painting at a college, get a grip. We always used oil paint on those metal doors and door jambs. We always used those white foam rollers to spread the oil paint over the doors. It's all about production, personally I am not much of a sprayer because I think production goes down hill trying to mask everything in sight from overspray. But I am open to rolling. Reason we don't roll trim in residential is that having stipple on woodwork is just so ghetto.
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This is maintenance painting at a college,
Exactly.
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The sentiment TJ expressed in his first post, has been echoed throughout this thread.
Please don't fault him for being a man of few words.
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I just met with a lady this morning who kicked the painters off the job for rolling her door frames with a mini roller. The have a slight texture and the gloss is lost.
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But back to the OP....

lakesidepainting, When I was painting, people were just starting to use weenie rollers for applying paint and then brushing out. It looked ridiculous to me, and I felt I never needed to perform such a DIY approach.

But looking back, how silly of me not to accept that these guys had found something that worked for them, and how stupid and even arrogant of me not to even try it. One can never have enough tools in their toolbox

Now I think that this method prolly is good for SOME situations, like maybe steel frames. I would suggest you try it for at least a week and then decide it it has a place in your toolbox.



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I agree looks lazy and cheap
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Lakeside...

Had you not put this question in the intro section...I bet there would have been a lot less drama.

so thanks!
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I've noticed that rolling doors and casings in commercial construction is the norm now. I wouldn't worry about it. Especially if you're the direct Lakeside.
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I've noticed that rolling doors and casings in commercial construction is the norm now. I wouldn't worry about it. Especially if you're the direct Lakeside.
Sadly IMO that is what's happening. More of substandard becoming the norm and thus the standard.
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Sadly IMO that is what's happening. More of substandard becoming the norm and thus the standard.
Well don't get all depressed about it. It's only painting for crying out loud!
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Any technique will & should always start with the job scope/budget, then the type of product you're brushing, the texture & size of the substrate & finally the desired look of the finish. Speed without uniform coatings & crisp, clean lines is going to be on the side of production & hackery, where as a focus on 2 uniform coats over every square inch with crisp, clean cut-in-lines wherever two colors and objects meet, will lean towards quality as the focus. I like quality, but also know I need to make $. So I will always apply the product how it spreads the fastest, in a uniform manner, providing a drip/splatter free experience with crisp, clean & streight lines. Doing one section at a time. Inside to out, tip to bottom, side to side... Plus I also ensure my application has little to no sign it was brushed or rolled. I like to try & imitate a sprayed look as much as possible...
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sorry im kind of new to this forum im not that familiar with how they work yet any pointers
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Always bring total awareness to your projects... Be watchful & present with what kind of finish you leave. Ensure it will adhere well to your substrate by preparing it properly first. when you see what you do& don't like learn & adjust as needed till you reach a confidence of vision with the steps, tools & techniques for any project...
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Always bring total awareness to your projects... Be watchful & present with what kind of finish you leave. Ensure it will adhere well to your substrate by preparing it properly first. when you see what you do& don't like learn & adjust as needed till you reach a confidence of vision with the steps, tools & techniques for any project...
Do you realize he is a maintenance employee for a college, taking orders from a crew leader?

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I just met with a lady this morning who kicked the painters off the job for rolling her door frames with a mini roller. The have a slight texture and the gloss is lost.
So Ghetto!
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Do you realize he is a maintenance employee for a college, taking orders from a crew leader?

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Yes... I realize this. Still though, I write for the what a true pro is aware of. Maintenance painting is a soul death to me... I feel for anyone forced to do work that lacks the details that make for the best look & feel of the finish. Focusing on Just gettin the paint on is truelly boring for me...
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