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Old 05-31-2011, 01:38 PM   #1
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I am a freelance commercial Painting estimator. I have been in the industry for 25+ years. I wonder how all you painting contractors feel about freelance estimating. I have had success doing this but wonder if it can turn into something bigger. I would love to hear every ones thoughts about this.
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I love the idea of it. For smaller companies (like me) it could be a huge timesaving to hire that out. The tough part would be knowing whatever numbers I give you (for SF or LF) would work for most or every situation. There are so many things that effect my price per SF on a given project/estimate, I would like to know how you figure that out?

Example: Bid sheet states: Existing ceiling needs painting, including HVAC, sprinkler lines and conduit.

Do you do a site visit to determine if it:
- Needs cleaning?
- Is already painted?
- Are silicone sealants paintable or do they need attention?
- Actual SF of all surfaces, since most I see don't have HVAC runs, etc. spelled out.

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We had one in the area give a talk at our PDCA chapter meeting a few months ago. One of the chapter members works with him and thought it would be a good topic for a meeting, and I have to agree. I learned a lot about working from plans and made a new contact if I ever need one.
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Bo,
We've been doing this for 85 years.
If you need some work, send me your info to [email protected]
We had to let a job go last week, didn't have time for it.
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Its absolutely the wave of the future. I started a company earlier this year that does freelance remodeling sales. Lucrative and very in demand. From a contractor standpoint, I would use a service like yours in a heartbeat.
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Its absolutely the wave of the future. I started a company earlier this year that does freelance remodeling sales. Lucrative and very in demand. From a contractor standpoint, I would use a service like yours in a heartbeat.
The wave of the future? LOL
I'm not laughing at you, just finding the statement funny.
We are three generations in estimating.

On another note, I remember my grandfather telling my dad that rollers were for housewives...lol.
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well most of the deck and joist you paint you always include painting of MEPs in the ceiling. if you dont then they usually spell that out and you add for protection. I dont use the actual sqft of deck and joist I use a multiplier depending on deck corrigation and bar joist height.
the spreadsheet Ive developed allows you to input your paint cost and labor cost per man hr and all you do is plug in sqft , doors , frames hollow metal or wood. pretty detailed and has taken many hrs to develope.
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The wave of the future? LOL
I'm not laughing at you, just finding the statement funny.
We are three generations in estimating.

On another note, I remember my grandfather telling my dad that rollers were for housewives...lol.
I think more and more smaller companies are looking at outsourcing in the future. Meant that moreso than the actual business model itself.
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I agree, nobody should want to carry a full-time estimator anymore.... Freelance is the way to go!!!! Why waste money paying a full-timer to surf the net or post on their "wall" 5 hours a day???

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I like the idea. Any freelance in montreal who speaks french???
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I agree, nobody should want to carry a full-time estimator anymore.... Freelance is the way to go!!!! Why waste money paying a full-timer to surf the net or post on their "wall" 5 hours a day???
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