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Old 01-29-2011, 10:48 AM   #1
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Howdy folks,
I thought a compelling title would get my post lots of views...ha, you bit!
I found your group last night and have been glued to the board for hours. I am in my 7th year as a small service business owner. I run a 'outdoor services' company and focus on landscape and tree work. I rarely look outside of my favorite landscaping and arborist forums but I am looking to make some changes this year and that is what brought me here.

My first thought is "Wow, this looks exactly like 'my' forums. Aside from the trade itself, the business questions and answers are pretty much identical. How do I bid? What's the going rate? Should I go door-to-door? I hate lowballers, etc. You could pretty much substitute the word 'landscaper' for 'painter' (or 1,000 other trades) and the small business talk would all look very familiar. I feel like joining in your conversations already, so I thought I'd introduce myself and jump right in.

I've got lots to share, and an interesting story, and after 6+ years of doing lots of things completely backwards, somehow I'm still in business for myself. The stakes are high. This ain't for beer money....I'm a single father with mortgages and college obligations, and a business with high overhead (Boom truck, dump truck, chippers, skid loader, snowplows and all the insurance to go with it). I'll save most of that for now. What I am working on at the moment is trying to fill my biggest gap in work -- Winter. When snow covers the ground for months at a time in Iowa, there just isn't much going on outside. Plowing, firewood, winter tree work, etc. can be a tough gig. So, painting is 1 of 1,000 possibilities and I'm here to explore that option. The first statistic I've read so far says that "98% of painting businesses fail in the 1st year." Hmm, that's even worse than my trade! I was lying in my title. This looks like a guaranteed failure for almost everyone! ;(

Anyway, see you around the board. Looks like lots of great reading!
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Old 01-29-2011, 10:52 AM   #2
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Welcome. Glad to have your input. Nevermind the naysayers.
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Welcome. Have your ever painted ?
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Welcome. Have your ever painted ?
Yes. That being said, I think knowing how to paint covers about 2% of what it takes to be successful in a painting business. Agreed?
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I'll tell you why I say that. I'm a great landscaper. That seems to have very little to do with being successful with my landscaping company. The actual work is generally very easy for me, I have a great close ratio, and a great hourly gross. None of that makes running a business easy for me. The # of billable hours in a week is always the struggle for me. Getting that phone to ring consistently, managing cash flow, equipment, OH, employees, taxes, insurance all take lots of time and none of that falls under 'billable hours'. So...while I thought I knew plenty when I started, I now think being a great landscaper qualifies me to be a $10/hr landscaper....not a business owner. Luckily I've got some other skills going for me...i guess I was not at all surprised that one of the first Q's was "have you ever painted?" I was just reacting to that Q and trying to make the point that having experience is a very tiny step towards successfully running a business.
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Glad to have you around. So your looking for another buisness venture?? keep us posted, ever think of vending machines?? painting has a pretty steep learning curve imo
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This forum is for PC's and for people that are full time in the paint industry not for potential painters, there is already a site for that and it is www.DIYChatroom.com Where they can polish their skills while learning the basics. When you decide to take the plunge and become a professional I recommend you hire on under someone so that you can properly put some time under your belt and learn how to properly become a professional.

You are welcome back when you do this for a living and as a lurker there are some good business and marketing threads that could benefit your landscaping business and feel free to lurk.
Look into www.DIYChatroom.com for your painting needs and www.contractortalk.com can aid in your landscape business. This thread is closed.
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Hey, NEPS. Stop stealing our thunder! Impersonating a moderator is a capital offense or something, I think. At least it should be. Maybe imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?!?!?
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HEY! You mod's stay out of my locked threads!!!!!!!!!!!

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Man, security is getting lax around here

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lol Chris you are an inspiration to all reading this thread.
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