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Old 05-26-2012, 06:53 PM   #1
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Found this forum recently when researching Gardz as a water-based, non-stinky alternative to an oil or shellac primer after removing an acre of wallpaper from walls and ceilings in a nursing home. Hope it works as advertised and I don't get a call in a few months because the paint is alligatoring!

Now in SE Michigan near Flint; have also lived and painted in California (had my state contractors license there in the 1980s) and Colorado. Have painted everything from freeway underpasses to Victorians, inside and out, new build to section 8 housing. Currently painting mostly residential and commercial interiors - vinyl siding is so common in Michigan so not so much exterior work, which is OK by me since Iím not as tolerant of hot sticky weather as I used to be! I do a lot of decks every year though. In the last few years have gotten into some decorative/faux painting and staining, and decorative plaster. The economy down-turn hit hard here starting in 2008 here so diversifying helped keep work coming in.


K.I.S.S. these days - just me and one full-time helper, plus a couple other folks I can call in for help when I need it. I often partner up with a very well-established local faux painter/decorator I've made friends with and we are staying pretty busy.


Appreciate the wealth of knowledge here and hope I can contribute now and then!
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Welcome Beth, I live in Fenton and have a BM store in White Lake.
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welcome Beth,

as to the gardz, how much paste residue did you leave on the walls? I know of a horror story about Gardz failing to seal in residue paste. And the Big Z refused any claim.



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Thanks for the welcome and a shout-out to fellow Michiganders!

DaArch - I am meticulous about removing as much paste residue as possible so the walls were very clean indeed. The paper had been professionally hung over multiple coats of semi-gloss paint; we got it off without much damage to the drywall so I was working with a solid surface. I don't anticipate problems but since it's the first time I've used Gardz I hope it's good...
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Welcome to PT from another Michigan paint slinger...
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Beth,

If it was a previously painted surface and you were meticulous about washing off the paste, then you should be good to go.

Since you do not know my history, a quick re-cap - I painted until the mid/late 80's, now I focus on paperhanging only. And stripping when necessary - WALLPAPER stripping (before the wise cracks are showered down).

As I strip each piece while the old paste is still wet, I scrub with a Scotch Brite grill scrub, and then rinse clean. After that I do not need any sealer. I'm explaining this because I do not like to use Gardz if I don't need to because I find the smell of Gardz to be quite powerful, although it does dry quickly.

Now if the walls are raw plaster, then yes, something like Gardz would assure a good sealed surface.

Hope my experiences can help you.



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Thanks again for the welcomes!

DaArch, this last couple of years it seems we've removed many acres of wallpaper and I frequently make the comment that I'd like to smack the next hanger I see upside the head just on general principle, LOL.

I do the exact same thing - use a BBQ scrubber and then rinse down to remove all the residue. About five years ago I was SURE I'd cleaned the walls completely so didn't prime...then got the dreaded phone call a few months later about the paint crackling. I hate screwing up, and hate working for "free" even more....Since then I don't take chances and typically use original Kilz, or CoverStain, no matter what, after every wp removal job. The smell of Gardz is like primroses compared to those primers.
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Yup, if you had ONE mishap, it's better to be sure. IMO Gardz or the original Draw-Tite will give you the assurance you are looking for



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Thanks again y'all and it's pretty cool to find discussions painter-to-painter. I've been slinging paint since 1979 and this forum has been a great resource...I try to keep learning and staying on top of new ideas, new products and so on and appreciate the shared knowledge!
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hey beth , welcome from philly ...............
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