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Old 04-29-2015, 09:12 AM   #1
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Default Hello from MO! Very new painter here...

Hey guys - very happy to find this forum

Here's my website, critique is welcomed: topcutspringfield.com

I've gotta get this off of my chest before asking for advice.

After about ten months of apartment turn painting around town, I've stumbled into my own business and am nervous as hell. I do have interior painting experience, but was admittedly leaning on the expertise of my old painting partner / new business partner who pulled out on me at the last minute...

We became good friends after working together for a local subcontractor for a huge property management company in town and decided to launch our own business. He had leads for a few properties through personal connections and I had business experience from previous endeavors. After a month of planning we were ready to roll. We kept everything on the level, putting in our two weeks and promising not to go after our company's territory. However, this allowed them time to make my buddy an offer he couldn't refuse: a raise and a promotion. He "thinks about this" for a week, and I find out this last Friday. He sells out, stays with the company for "stability" and I haven't spoken to him since. (I wasn't offered anything as I was still relatively new; he'd been there for three years.) I can't blame the guy for choosing a paycheck over freelance work, but I was left in the dust (and lost his connections).

Now unemployed, I thought about things over the weekend and approached another friend who is experienced with painting as well - but not as much as my old painting partner. He's in between jobs (caring for family) and agrees to work for me, 1099.

We figure we're gonna fake it til we make it. Since we're inflating our experience a bit, we are hunting for turnover work before anything else. I wouldn't even mind doing that exclusively - it's easy work. In the meantime, I feel we can tip-toe into some jobs through friends and start researching as much as possible on YouTube and forums like this.

SO... what do you guys think? Can we ease our way into professional work? I fear a community of experts will tell me to take a hike, but I feel that painting is an easy trade to master. I'd also like to think I'm no dummy.

Since I'd like to find a cash-cow ASAP, how should I go about approaching apartment property managers? Is visiting offices with a proposal in-hand considered outright solicitation? Is emailing effective? Cold calling? A combination of all three?

Thanks for any advice at all - hope to stick around for a while

-Scott

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Old 04-29-2015, 11:17 AM   #2
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Welcome to the group Scott.

In regards to your question, I'd first suggest you make sure you have any/all appropriate licensing needed, write out some of your basic rates you'll offer to those property management companies you seek, then print out some fliers and distribute them. You can also target Realtors, since this would be along the same line of work you're interested in going after.

As far as bringing another guy into the mix, I'm not sure if you intend to groom his as a potential partner, or if he's just gonna be an employee. If it's the latter, please take the time to use the search function here and read up on the threads with the keywords, "Subcontractor Dodge".

Good luck to you.
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Thanks for the input, Troy!

I'm incorporated, licensed, and (almost) insured - so I should be good to go. I've got a preliminary proposal letter and a turnover bid sheet prepared as well... if anyone would like to take a look.

My friend does not want to be a legitimate partner, but just an employee/independent contractor (he legitimately does have his own supplies). I guess we are planning on doing the "Subcontractor Dodge" which is just hiring a 1099, correct? After searching this term, I realize HE might have to carry his own insurance as well? Or is that something that people just risk...?
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SO... what do you guys think? Can we ease our way into professional work? I fear a community of experts will tell me to take a hike, but I feel that painting is an easy trade to master. I'd also like to think I'm no dummy.
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Welcome... Don't risk him not having insurance not worth it... I got good laugh out you thinking painting is a easy trade to master....
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I got good laugh out you thinking painting is a easy trade to master....
Haha, I knew I'd regret typing that
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Welcome... Don't risk him not having insurance not worth it... I got good laugh out you thinking painting is a easy trade to master....
Yeah, I'm still learning new stuff after forty years of doing this.
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I started out apartment painting
And residential is another world.
Apartments are very cheap
Here in tulsa especially but i managed to make $$ by using a shield.
Apartments usually take 30-60 days to pay too!!
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I started out apartment painting
And residential is another world.
Apartments are very cheap
Here in tulsa especially but i managed to make $$ by using a shield.
Apartments usually take 30-60 days to pay too!!


Great info - thanks. I actually grew up in Claremore and have several friends in Tulsa

All of the apts I've painted thus far have approved hand-painted trim, which saves TONS of time. Since all of the baseboards were caulked, there was no way to get a precise line with tape or a shield anyway... hopefully this is common around here.

How did you get started with your first properties? Did you have a personal connection or did you just start emailing or calling or walking in?

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My dad owns a carpet cleaning business and does quite a few complexes and throws my name to the maintenance supervisor. Best time to get an account is when they are not happy with the painters.
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Welcome from NW MO, best of luck.

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