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Old 01-26-2011, 10:59 PM   #21
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Old 01-27-2011, 02:45 AM   #22
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?????? Me no understand!
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Thank you... but eventually his ego gets bruised (then what) and I never seem to get the raise...the foreman gets most of the credit and I believe he's paid way more than he claims "I only make a dollar more than you" yea right.

I suggest using "the attitude of gratitude". I have a hard time giving prima-donnas a raise, because then they expect the next raise shortly thereafter. A truly loyal employee that "gets it done" even if the direction or criticism sounds stupid at the time is going to get the raise faster. So your foreman may not be worth it in your eyes, but in the bosses eyes- he has learned what he needs to do make the boss happy; (ie.- to play the game.)


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Old 01-27-2011, 09:44 AM   #24
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Beautiful, couldn't have said it better...and the back is achin' too. Stupid, stinkin bulging disk and piriformis syndrome...how do you heal this stinkin' pain?

Need some good muscle performance routine education or somethin...must be some kind of warm up cool down rules I break.

I know one thing, this summer I'm not letting my body temp go over 103 F...yes, what do you think of that
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Go to a Chiropractor with a reputation. Do Bikrams yoga or another type if you can't hang. Drink lots of alkaline water.

I know too many people with bulging discs. Known those that healed through chiropractic care and those who end up on a morphine drip and under a surgeons knife. The chiropractor is way cheaper and ten times or more less painful.
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Old 01-27-2011, 09:44 AM   #25
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A few mistakes, once in a while is not a big deal. If it is a consistant problem, then it has to be dealt with.

I tell my employees to go back and look over thier own work. Stop being lazy and be your own quality control, then your boss won't have to "spaz".

I get pizzed if I have to tell somebody the same thing over and over, day after day. They likely get unemployed.

Oh....do you wear glasses? Or do you need glasses but won't wear them?
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I love the paint forum. Been painting 20 yrs. I have OCD, ADD, and I'm only a type B personality striving to become a type A and maybe even a Quad A some day not to be confused with the Moto Cross lol.

I am an employee. Please tell me, bosses and owners, if you think I'm whining or out of character but I am here mostly to vent frustrations about the industry but not to complain :-).

What do you think of this?: Why do bosses and owners flip out so easily like you owe them child support or something...for example:

If you want one primer, one finish on oil trim don't get all bent out of shape over a couple tiny holidays and act like I was a complete moron, painted all day and it took 5 min to fix a couple holidays the customer never would have seen anyway because they're sellin the house. Sick of leaders spazing like they're makin excuses not to give a raise. Wha da YOU say?
Hello fellow employee!

I understand your frustration. What you're describing is a form of micro-managing. The closer you work with your employer, the more the micro managing you will experience. I recently had this discussion with a PC buddy of mine. He is very consciencious about his work, and becomes very agitated if his guys aren't performing exactly to his expectations. This causes resentment among the ranks, particularly the more sensitive ones, because he's also their "buddy", who wants to have a "fun" work environment, as long as it's the way he percieves fun to be.

Suggestion: Since you made the choice to be an employee rather then an employer, accept the consequences. Like my buddy, many PC's have big egos that can be percieved as belittling to others, or even harsh. This can complicate the work environment if they don't possess good communication skills, and an understanding that they have a responsibility to their employees to operate as a business, and not as a social club.

I also suggested to my buddy, that since he is the micro managing type, that he implement a management style that communicates his desires, and expectations (not unlike a system) to help maximize his employees performance, while reducing the need to micro manage.

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To Lambrecht post #5

Just for argument sake, if no consistent quality work wouldn't you let go of someone like that? Well, haven't been let go for three years and I feel my work is insanely quality oriented...builder friend who has his own business says I should get a buck raise every year... 1st year was a buck raise, 2nd year a buck raise and took away 1wk vacation pay, 3rd year nothing... last summer was hot too. Of course there have been a lot of friendship benefits which have truly been great but had I known I was paying for them, things would be different lol.

I think it's easy to say it's time to go but maybe I should "pull myself up by my bootstraps" as mom used to say...don't take any handouts because there may be strings attached not to mention I am amazed by the support this forum offers! Thanks in advance!

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To CApainter post#26

Thanks, you explain so well. I am somewhat wrong. Boss and owner make frequent attempts to "communicate expectations". I want to rush the process sometimes.

"Reading the job" as we call it is defining quality as expected by each individual customer. The Catch 22 is customers can vary greatly...and if everyone is the same work would be mundane to say the least.

I guess this skill is an artform which we will never perfect but may enjoy developing in day to day work experience. Thanks again. Talk to you later.

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Old 01-27-2011, 09:23 PM   #29
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LambrechtAbout paperhanging

Thanks for your insight. I'm realizing it was just another bad day...always trying to improve however, sometimes trying too hard, lol.

Between 11 and 3 yrs. ago I wore many hats(one being paper hanging) for the company, now, for current co., I specialize in residential repaints. Hat's off to you for hangin...those guys are so intense but sometimes I wonder if I am more of a Shicklegroover lol...trying to be funny...know anything about that guy?

Before, I wore too many hats and had to make some cuts. Just recently learned one benefit to paper - easier to clean and almost justifies expense. Paint doesn't seem to last more than 3 years without loosing its luster. Remove a lot of paper now...it's a shame how much damage it does to walls, I think because hangers don't have patience for the priming and painters won't help the hangers. The industry is bruised here.

Anyway, curious about Ipod...don't earphone wires get in the way...did you ever want to try blutetooth with smartphone?

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Just for argument sake, if no consistent quality work wouldn't you let go of someone like that? Well, haven't been let go for three years and I feel my work is insanely quality oriented...builder friend who has his own business says I should get a buck raise every year... 1st year was a buck raise, 2nd year a buck raise and took away 1wk vacation pay, 3rd year nothing... last summer was hot too. Of course there have been a lot of friendship benefits which have truly been great but had I known I was paying for them, things would be different lol.

I think it's easy to say it's time to go but maybe I should "pull myself up by my bootstraps" as mom used to say...don't take any handouts because there may be strings attached not to mention I am amazed by the support this forum offers! Thanks in advance!
I'm not one to intimidate employees with economic 'doom and gloom' but if your employer kept you reasonably busy last year you should
A: open a newspaper and realize whats been going one the last few years.
B: take it as a compliment.
C: be thankful all you lost was a weeks vacation.

By the way, summers are hot, winters are cold
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To Custom Brush Co. post#24

Thank you very much. Alkaline water sounds really neat...googled it and found $25 for 5 to 10 gal...can you reccommend anything cheaper but as effective...I know beggers can't be chosers...don't have time for yoga but appreciate it...tried it 25 years ago and found it extremely relaxing...will try adjusting bad habits first.

Very eager to try water...winter and summer?

Really agree on varying results of disc correction! It boggles the mind. Do miss the chiropractor and pt! Seems just the therapuetic touch is bulk of results, perhaps. There is a knotted back muscle just above left pelvis...its been tight forever! When the pt rubbed it thought i died and went to heaven but it just keeps bouncing back to tightness...2 treatments a week for 2 months summer before last...now insurance doesnt cover, hard to make time for it anyway...dealin with it but could really live without it...sorry rambling...

Thanks again. God bless you!

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In response to "BikerBoy" post #25

Yes just got new glasses last year...progressives and I hate them...might as well wear blinders lol! Are you ribbing?

Whatever you do, don't whip out the halogen, lol! Smell what I'm cookin?

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Thank you Bender...

Off topic,,Is that an angry bird?

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Sincere,

I do appreciate that you are trying to respond to the comments, but it is tough to understand to whom you are replying. May I suggest that you either mention the poster's name, or hit the "quote" button and respond after the quote tag close ( [/QUOTE])

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I do appreciate that you are trying to respond to the comments, but it is tough to understand to whom you are replying. May I suggest that you either mention the poster's name, or hit the "quote" button and respond after the quote tag close (
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In reference to your question about an IPod and earphones. The IPod touch has a built in speaker so you don't even need earphones and it is not loud enough to be heard outside of a room. I think it canhold like 4000 songs.
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