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Old 07-13-2010, 02:17 PM   #1
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yep another newbie, well to the site anyway. Glad to have found the site too, I found it because I was searching for something online, damn can't remember what that was now.
Anyway, been painting for at least 20 years to earn money as a second income, and still have a lot to learn. Have worked on my own and with a painting contractor in our city. I come from a family of painters, grandfather / father / stepfather/ uncles and my aunt all painted for a living.
Looks like due to the eventual loss of my primary income ( company closing ), that I will be moving to painting more as my primary income to support my wife and two children and I.
I hope to gather as much knowledge here as I can, and not be too much of a P.I.T.A, seems like a good bunch from some of the posts I've read. Some of the posts in the PetPeeves section are awesome.
From a newbie point of view something I struggle with still is estimating, some people say "wow, ok sure you got the job", others "that's too much".
After reading some on here, I guess you could say I don't know my numbers. Any volunteers to help me figure that out, so I can do this properly...ugghh it gets frustrating at times.

The name is Dave. I'll go by lildave. My uncle (RIP) was Dave and he always called me lildave, the painting company had a taller guy named Dave, and I was always referred to as lildave, so...that's me - lildave.

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Old 07-13-2010, 02:24 PM   #2
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Welcome lildave! Love the great intro, really helps us to get to know newbies!
This is a great place to learn how to improve your business. Read all the stickies for a start. Knowing your numbers is something we all struggle with, writing everything down is a good start. Make sure you are legal, licensed, insured, RRP certified for whatever applies to you.
Feel free to jump into a thread and ask a question.
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Thanks for that great intro and I look forward to reading more of your posts.
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grandfather / father / stepfather/ uncles and my aunt all painted for a living.
I learned the most from companies I worked for ran by multi-generational painters.

Sounds like you have a good head start on lots of paint businesses starting out this day and age.

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Make sure you are legal, licensed, insured, RRP certified for whatever applies to you.
Hmm...where I am, I am not sure how much of that applies.
Can someone share what the available "certifications, etc" are for Ontario Canada.
Legal ? yep I'm a legal Canadian born and raised here and can work in Canada legally eh!.
Licensed - as far as I know there are no "licenses" needed here to be a painter here. Painters papers are uncommon, however I have found some reference to some training and apprenticeship offerings that look like they take 2 or 3 years to complete. PLEASE correct me if I'm mistaken.

RRP certification - is that an American only thing?

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Sorry about that, missed the Canadian part.

RRP is US only, have to wait for one of the many Canadian members to chime in on the rest.

I am curious as to what type of insurance you are required to carry?
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Welcome lildave!
Actually, where I am, painters papers are quite common, most of the guys around here that do any quality work at all are all ticketed. Just speaking from my experience. It's a 3 year course, usually found at a tech college. (I done went and gots me one about 25 years back.)

Insurance, well, it's so varied that you really have to do your homework, make a lot of calls, etc, am sure other guys on here can tell you better about that for your specific province.
So, good luck in your venture, sounds like you really have painting in the genes

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Welcome! I love how you guys talk.. grade 12 and things like that! be cool man
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Wayyyyy cool......... Dude!

Like, that was a totally awesome intro!
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:57 AM   #14
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Welcome lildave!
Actually, where I am, painters papers are quite common, most of the guys around here that do any quality work at all are all ticketed. Just speaking from my experience. It's a 3 year course, usually found at a tech college. (I done went and gots me one about 25 years back.)

Insurance, well, it's so varied that you really have to do your homework, make a lot of calls, etc, am sure other guys on here can tell you better about that for your specific province.
So, good luck in your venture, sounds like you really have painting in the genes

Thanks very much for the info, I have looked into it in the past. I have not anywhere readily offering the "courses" locally. The ones I have found and written to for follow up, didn't respond. The courses also mentioned working for percentages of salary in your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year until you get your papers. My problem would be working for minimum wage to apprentice, while I could make more doing the job myself.....
Anyone in Ontario have a GOOD source for courses for a Painter to get their papers?

Not sure what that other poster is talking about with the way we talk, and grade 12...etc was that an insult? Gee, I've only just gotten here dude..duh! Like wutz up wi dat?

ok, back to my paint tray....
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Well, possibly a good start, if you can document your work experience, is to contact the local union hall. Just google 'painters and allied trades'. If you have enough experience, you might be able to challenge the exam for your ticket. I say 'might' because am not sure they are doing that anymore.
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ROFL nEighter! gotta love the TPB's, good one
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I'm new here, too, and am doing a kind of meet and greet in order to get to know as many of the other members as possible. Thanks for the introduction.
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