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Old 03-03-2019, 11:36 AM   #1
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My fiancée has been a professional painter for almost 20 years. I tag along and help so I’ve learned a few things. We ran into an issue that he confirms even he has never seen. Wallpaper job. Office building. It appears the wallpaper was put up directly on top of bare drywall. Any suggestions on proper removal, which won’t take a year or more???
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Old 03-03-2019, 12:29 PM   #2
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No, nope, nada, nein, nyet. If you try to remove it half the drywall will come with it causing a nightmare sealing and patching job. IMO, suggest they have 3/8" sheetrock put on top of the vinyl, which will require a taping job also. If the WC is in good condition you could talk them into priming and painting over it.
In other words, choose your poison!
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Are we talking the entire building, or just a single office? Wouldn't really matter to me as I'd be peeling out of the parking lot at mach 9. That sounds like a total nightmare. No matter what solution you come up with, you're gonna be closing down the area for quite some time while the work is getting done.
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Wildbill and Brushman basically covered it.. its a nightmare, either let the job go, or have to work through the crap. I would give them the option of sheetrock over whats there, or prep and paint the paper thats up. neither one is ideal.
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It is a common occurrence here in the Midwest. Tract homes built in the 60's and 70's were done "on the cheap" so any paper was hung on fresh drywall. Removal will cause your fiance to consider another line of work. Taking it off dry, if you are lucky enough to get a version that pulls right off, tends to act like tape stuck on your skin, it pulls something off like the drywall paper facing.

If it's incredibly stubborn, you can use water from your pump garden sprayer, score it, keep it wet for upwards of an hour, then cross your fingers that it comes off in sheets. It rarely does and all that water ends up damaging the drywall paper anyway.


Of all the jobs associated with painting, that one is possibly the WORST.
The walls almost always end up looking like this:
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Prime it with oil, skim out seams, prime skimmed seams, two coats paint, done. That paper over raw sheetrock is never coming off.
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Not priming for vinyl was considered job security for one major commercial company I worked for as they also did rocking and finishing as well. It's a pretty dirty trick if you're not going to be the next guy though.
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Not priming for vinyl was considered job security for one major commercial company I worked for as they also did rocking and finishing as well. It's a pretty dirty trick if you're not going to be the next guy though.
It was for many of the largest shops, who would sell them on the strippable vinyl paste, no need for the extra expense of priming, my a$$. http://romandecoratingproducts.com/c...astes/pro-880/

The thing that rips me a new one is I was always the guy who got stuck with running the job when the dumb ass estimator went out and removed a 2 foot area and declared this $hit comes off like butter. NOT!
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Prime it with oil, skim out seams, prime skimmed seams, two coats paint, done. That paper over raw sheetrock is never coming off.
For unprimed walls or ones who used wall paint for sizing this is the best way to deal with paper removal.

We've skim coated a few complete interiors, A couple the owners actually paid to have the walls overlaid with some sheetrock. I like those those of customers.
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Good advice on this thread with some real good answers. I have done two jobs like this but not on raw sheetrock.
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