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Old 08-20-2015, 07:59 PM   #1
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Hi to all of you. My name's Al and I live and work in northern Michigan. I have been painting off and on for 17 years originally in south Georgia. For the last six years I have worked exclusively as a painter, five of which were as an employee that would get hired in spring and layed off again in the fall. The last time I got layed off by them I started subbing for a contractor. This worked out okay for a year. I asked for a raise after ten months. The fact is as a sub I was under the impression that I would get paid more seeing he had no responsibility to me. I was turned down flat but after I was willing to walk away I was given a whole .50 cent raise. The next day I was told with my raise I was to completely run a job and train newbies. I didn't have a problem with either thing and successfully and in a timely manner completed two rather large projects.
I had some cards made under my DBA and landed a decent contract. When I let the contractor know that at some point I would need 3 weeks to do a job on my own the guy went kind of ballistic which bothered me as I was letting him know I was trying to work around his schedule. Was 'fired' on the spot, which as I was a sub I don't know how that could happen.
Anyhow, as the title suggest I am on my own now and have landed future jobs and right now everything is going well.
I know that this could change at any time and I know that I don't know it all so I am thankful for this site.
I knew I would probably be painting until I fell off a ladder from old age so I figured I might as well be doing it for myself. Wish me LUCK!
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:46 PM   #2
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Best of luck. It's sucks starting out but keep pushing foward do quality work and be fair and honest with your customers and the work will come at you from every direction. Figure out what you want your niche to be and focus the majority of your attention on that, ie residential re-paint, new construction, commercial, industrial, faux finishing, etc. Trying to be painter of all types will wear you out quickly.
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Welcome to PT!

Best of luck in your venture.

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PT is a great resource.

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Welcome from NW Missouri, best of luck!

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That's quite the climate change--South GA to northern MI. Best of luck going forward.


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Welcome!

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Welcome to PT! Sounds like the guy you worked for was one of the ones heavily abusing the subcontractor system in this country. There's a lot of trouble going around right now; if the government got wind he was dictating your schedule he would have been in deep doodoo and probably had to pay you backwages.
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Welcome to PT! Sounds like the guy you worked for was one of the ones heavily abusing the subcontractor system in this country. There's a lot of trouble going around right now; if the government got wind he was dictating your schedule he would have been in deep doodoo and probably had to pay you backwages.
Yes he is but he paid me what I agrred to so not looking to get him in a jackpot.
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Hi to all of you.

My name's Al and I live and work in northern Michigan. I have been painting off and on for 17 years originally in south Georgia. That's a long time. What type of painting do you do?

For the last six years I have worked exclusively as a painter, five of which were as an employee that would get hired in spring and layed off again in the fall. That seems pretty typical. Was this with one contractor? And if so, why work for him that long?

The last time I got layed off by them I started subbing for a contractor. This worked out okay for a year. I asked for a raise after ten months. The fact is as a sub I was under the impression that I would get paid more seeing he had no responsibility to me. I would imagine that as a sub, you would have to formally submit cost increases to the GC for future services.

I was turned down flat but after I was willing to walk away I was given a whole .50 cent raise. The next day I was told with my raise I was to completely run a job and train newbies. I didn't have a problem with either thing and successfully and in a timely manner completed two rather large projects. i think you're mistaking your operating cost increase with a raise.

I had some cards made under my DBA and landed a decent contract. When I let the contractor know that at some point I would need 3 weeks to do a job on my own the guy went kind of ballistic which bothered me as I was letting him know I was trying to work around his schedule. Was 'fired' on the spot, which as I was a sub I don't know how that could happen. it can't. Especially if you were bound by a sub contracting contract.


Anyhow, as the title suggest I am on my own now and have landed future jobs and right now everything is going well.
I know that this could change at any time and I know that I don't know it all so I am thankful for this site.

I knew I would probably be painting until I fell off a ladder from old age so I figured I might as well be doing it for myself. Wish me LUCK!
As a sub, you have to have a contract with everyone.
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