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Old 04-29-2012, 02:46 PM   #1
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I have looked at these forums many times and posted few. I have never introduced myself and feel I should. I am Jeff 45 years old and been in residential and commercial construction my entire life. Over 10 years ago I step out of the field into the office. Working from project management to estimating and all other aspects of administration. 3 years ago I decided a new venture. Freelance commercial painting estimating. Now I have 5 clients I do work for and seems to be more and more interest. I've got a good reference base and would like to get a few more clients. Please let me know your thoughts or ideas on how to grow this business. Thanks Jeff.
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Keep doing what your doing. I think it has a future. I would use you if i needed freelance estimating. Because right now it actually makes sense to "pay as you go" if you go the NC niche. Versus working a full time estimator or two, winning 1 in a hundred jobs. So I have found out that right now it is a tough a niche to be in. Thier are to many GC's fighting for to few jobs in this market. So i stopped bidding NC. The lead generating business has made it so accessible to everyone that its a buyers market for the benifit of the Contractor but to the detriment of the Sub contractor. The last time I did it thier were 20 GC's times 3 painters each. Thats 60 painters bidding on one job for example. I don't have the time or manpower to submit to that many. And i really don't want to be that low. Bottom line I can't get the work for a good price anyway.
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I have looked at these forums many times and posted few. I have never introduced myself and feel I should. I am Jeff 45 years old and been in residential and commercial construction my entire life. Over 10 years ago I step out of the field into the office. Working from project management to estimating and all other aspects of administration. 3 years ago I decided a new venture. Freelance commercial painting estimating. Now I have 5 clients I do work for and seems to be more and more interest. I've got a good reference base and would like to get a few more clients. Please let me know your thoughts or ideas on how to grow this business. Thanks Jeff.
Hello Jeff,

I would think that as a freelance painting estimator you would want to pursue companies that are bidding on very large projects, knowing that smaller companies normally want to handle ther own estimating.

Of course you would want to know all aspects of painting in residential, commercial, and industrial projects to help broaden your client base.

I do believe there is a market for your service. Good luck.

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Thanks everyone an I look forward to learning from you all. It really seems the niche is in the companies that are doing 1-2 mil year. I've landed about 500 k for one client and his margins are good. I work closely with them and once I know there labor cost and product cost we can dial the numbers in. These guys seem not to have full time estimators and feel they do better in the field running the jobs and don't want the overhead of full time estimator. I understand some not liking or trusting someone else to bid work. My goal is to help companies grow. Or help them get in the commercial market. And you are right about 20 GCs bidding every job but you have to bid them to get them. I have a pretty impressive spreadsheet that list common commercial task and breaks it down by production rates. I enter material cost and man hr rate and poof. I also enjoy doing it. Lol. I would like to find a few more wanting to do commercial work and show them how my services can help.
Thanks again for the encouragement
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