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Old 09-29-2011, 06:59 PM   #21
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Wow. That is quite the story. It sucks that one disgruntled employee can cause so much havoc. Glad to learn more and thanks for choosing PT to share.
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:10 PM   #22
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I'm confused. Did they really go after you because you admitted company guilt? It seems to me that anyone could have done that. A ex-employee, competition, HO getting rid of their paint, ect. How else could they prove that it was you unless the pictures actually had a recognizable employee dumping into the drain? Where is the concrete evidence if you had not admitted guilt?
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My thoughts exactly.
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Thanks for sharing!

Now everyone that posted in this thread has proof they know of the law.

Anybody want more regs?
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Welcome to the forum, even if you are here to serve penance I look forward to reading more of your posts.
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I'm confused. Did they really go after you because you admitted company guilt? It seems to me that anyone could have done that. A ex-employee, competition, HO getting rid of their paint, ect. How else could they prove that it was you unless the pictures actually had a recognizable employee dumping into the drain? Where is the concrete evidence if you had not admitted guilt?
Yeah, admitting guilt probably wasn't the sharpest move. However, the EPA and other agencies involved all assured me that if I worked with them, I wouldn't face any fines. So I thought it best just to admit the wrong, make some changes and move on. It wasn't until 6 months later the Dept. of Ecology told us of the fine.

It's a bit like a cop asking you if you've ever driven above the speed limit in your entire life. You say "sure, but I certainly wasn't today", but the cop still fines you for your prior actions.

I'm a relatively small company and I knew I couldn't afford a protracted legal battle against a government agency. So, I opted to admit that this former employee had in the past improperly disposed of the paint rinse water.
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Yes to the question of whether a drink is needed.

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hey - is that the guy from North Korea? Kim jung? or something like that. I never seen him smile before. Thanks

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Probably a good move on your part to do all that you can to repair public perception of your company. That must be particularly critical as a franchise.



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That would be Chairman Mao, deceased, from China. Heckuva guy...

Quite the interesting read Seattle. Sorry it happened to you as you made it sound as if you had been doing all the things you thought were correct. Hopefully you'll stick around after your "sentence".
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Yeah, admitting guilt probably wasn't the sharpest move. However, the EPA and other agencies involved all assured me that if I worked with them, I wouldn't face any fines. So I thought it best just to admit the wrong, make some changes and move on. It wasn't until 6 months later the Dept. of Ecology told us of the fine.

It's a bit like a cop asking you if you've ever driven above the speed limit in your entire life. You say "sure, but I certainly wasn't today", but the cop still fines you for your prior actions.

I'm a relatively small company and I knew I couldn't afford a protracted legal battle against a government agency. So, I opted to admit that this former employee had in the past improperly disposed of the paint rinse water.
is too late to get a lawyer involved to point out that your "confession" is invalid and any charges should be dropped ?



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is too late to get a lawyer involved to point out that your "confession" is invalid and any charges should be dropped ?

Freeking lawyer would cost more than the fine
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holy canoli i'm never moving to washington.
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Wow! You've certainly provided some food for thought!

I'm sorry that you've found your way to the forum under such unfortunate circumstances but for what it is worth, I found what you've posted so far to be really, really valuable informations so, thank you.

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Hows that post count coming along John?
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Paul,

Please dont stop him until he gets to mine. Its a pandoras box now. Anyone who doesnt get John's welcome is going to feel slighted.

Imagine Steve R being left out of that club?



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Please dont stop him until he gets to mine. Its a pandoras box now. Anyone who doesnt get John's welcome is going to feel slighted.

Imagine Steve R being left out of that club?
OK, but it has to stop with your introduction.
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OK, but it has to stop with your introduction.

We will be welcoming John to the biz zone well in advance of his greeting to me.



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