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Old 11-25-2009, 10:25 AM   #1
 
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Hey guys, I am 22 and new here. Looking to start a painting business. Just wondering whats the best way to get jobs and get started?

I dont know alot about painting, just basics. I dont know how to estimate a project or know how many coats a room will take, etc....


I posted an ad on craigslist to find a partner to paint with. I told them I am not an expert but have money for advertising and would like to partner with an experienced painter.

To my suprise, I had about 20 responses.

What should I do here?

Should I advertise and find jobs, and send my "new" experienced painter partner to estimate it and do the jobs with him?

All answers welcome.

P.S. I know that quality is the most important thing. Pleasing the customer is a must
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:52 AM   #2
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There are two very important things to know about running a successful
PAINTING BUSINESS

Painting
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Business

I would strongly suggest you learn both before losing what little money you can afford to invest.

We have on this forum a section called "Business, Marketing, and Sales"
https://www.painttalk.com/f4/

At the beginning of that section are a few "stickies" (threads that will not move because of their importance). Before we can tell you ANYthing, you MUST read and comprehend them.

And those just touch upon the BUSINESS side.

Then, to compliment the business skills you need to learn, you MUST learn technical skills. We can not do that here. That requires hands-on training. I would highly recommend foregoing your aspirations of becoming a painting business and learn the craft from people who have experience.

There is no "Painting for Dummies" book. There are no short cuts.

Sorry to sound harsh, but I think your dreams should be tempered with reality.



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Welcome I guess.
Your 1st step would be to learn painting practices and coatings. Every thing eles should follow
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Agreed. Read the threads, books, etc to get a basic idea on business. Find a job with a respectable painting company to gain valuable painting skills. Then think about starting a business.

PS - A "partner" you know nothing about from CL is a bad idea; you could get screwed over big time. Be careful.
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Ipainter, since you don't have much experience with painting, why not start another business like Electrical Contractor. I'm sure you can find an unemployed professional electrician out there you could hire. Then you can learn a trade that's much more prestigious then painting.
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Do yourself a big favor and don't get into this trade.
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Ya you could go here
for Woodworking
for Electrician
for HVAC
for Drywall
for Plumbing
for Roofing
They are all sister sites. I know you all ready checked in at at contractortalk. So I guess contractor would be out.
You could even do a couple of them. drywall & paint or electrician & plumbing.
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All kidding aside. What makes you want to be a painter?
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Ipainter, since you don't have much experience with painting, why not start another business like Electrical Contractor. I'm sure you can find an unemployed professional electrician out there you could hire. Then you can learn a trade that's much more prestigious then painting.
Then again, like many, you probably have a "PASSION" for painting. In which case, GOOD LUCK!
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Be prepared to be poor. To be able to spend then next 2-5+ yrs trying to learn what DaArch said above. Have a parttime job, and network your asss off.
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Don't listen to these guys.

"A couple brushes, a few tarps, an aluminum A-frame you can stick in your backseat and Craigs List are all you need."

The above is quoted from the populous of people with no experience that want to start a painting business.
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Hey guys, I am 22 and new here. Looking to start a painting business. Just wondering whats the best way to get jobs and get started?

I dont know alot about painting, just basics. I don't know how to estimate a project or know how many coats a room will take, etc....


I posted an ad on craigslist to find a partner to paint with. I told them I am not an expert but have money for advertising and would like to partner with an experienced painter.

To my suprise, I had about 20 responses.

What should I do here?

Should I advertise and find jobs, and send my "new" experienced painter partner to estimate it and do the jobs with him?

All answers welcome.

P.S. I know that quality is the most important thing. Pleasing the customer is a must
I would imagine that anyone who saw an ad like that on Craig's List were drooling at the thought of some kid willing to dump some money on them. Most guys perusing Craig's List are not what I would consider for a business partner. They are usually just painters. Be very, very careful leaving yourself open like that. You should also do some research about business. IE...sole proprietor,LLC, inc. Partnerships... It's a little more complicated then you might think. IMHO???????
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iPainter,

It may look like a lot of us are having fun at your expense - which we are, but in all seriousness, take to heart what is being said. We have all been there and done that and are absolutely looking out for your best interest.

I hope that you find a great painting company to work for and learn the trade - both technical and business sides.

Who knows, maybe one of the guys/gals on this forum is in your area and realize you have the passion and drive they want for another up and comer and will hire you. Wouldn't that be sweeeeet !



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Hey guys, I am 22 and new here. Looking to start a painting business. Just wondering whats the best way to get jobs and get started?

I dont know alot about painting, just basics. I dont know how to estimate a project or know how many coats a room will take, etc....


I posted an ad on craigslist to find a partner to paint with. I told them I am not an expert but have money for advertising and would like to partner with an experienced painter.

To my suprise, I had about 20 responses.

What should I do here?


Should I advertise and find jobs, and send my "new" experienced painter partner to estimate it and do the jobs with him?

All answers welcome.

P.S. I know that quality is the most important thing. Pleasing the customer is a must
I call bull****. There is no way this post is real, its just not possible. I usually encourage people to go out on their own but I just see this as someone screwing with us.
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I call bull****. There is no way this post is real, its just not possible. I usually encourage people to go out on their own but I just see this as someone screwing with us.
Well, that is definitely possible. but I just checked the IP he registerred with and he is the only one here using that IP, so he is not another member pulling our collective leg.

And, just for the sake of argument, let us suppose this is a serious case of leg pulling. All the advice given is sound and would suit others who venture down the same road. And we all know that ipainter's plan is not unique. We should make this a sticky to which we can point other similar requests.



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He's not pulling anyone's leg. He was on CT with the same thread. A fellow name JF if I recall, opened the door to PT for him.
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He's not pulling anyone's leg. He was on CT with the same thread. A fellow name JF if I recall, opened the door to PT for him.

Close the damn door. Its gettin' drafty in here.
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Close the damn door. Its gettin' drafty in here.
you're BAD, Ken.

But hey, think what would happen to the industry if we weren't able to give good advice to those about to make a big mistake ?



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Maybe we need to lead him to a liltle place called
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