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Old 05-22-2020, 01:40 PM   #1
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Curious to others thought process on why you started painting cabinets and if you dont offer the service why not ?
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Curious to others thought process on why you started painting cabinets and if you dont offer the service why not ?
It's in demand right now. And I go where the money is..
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It's in demand right now. And I go where the money is..
even if youre getting good prices for interior work is it that much more lucrative to take the risk?
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@Vylum What is the risk you are referring to? In residences there is very little I would refuse to pain. I even painted a stove once. I've been painting cabinets since my first year in business. Much to the irritation of a few companies that wanted to replace. I would tell clients the cost of painting and updating hardware and they inevitably went with paint. I also often did the insides as well as exposed surfaces. Clients were always thrilled!
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If you haven’t done much spraying, get good at using fflp tips in an airless. Get some old cabinet doors and boxes and practice.

And though not a requirement, painters who have shops in which they can do the doors and drawer fronts have an advantage IMO.
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It's all about developing a system and having a shop really is the ticket. For the last couple years I've developed a system that allows me to turn around an average size cabinet set in 2.5 days start to finish that look and feel amazing. I'd say so far this year a good 70% of my work has been cabinets and I've been doing them for the last month straight with two of the next three week scheduled with them.

I love doing them but they are definitely more stressful and it took me a while to really hone in on my system, products, and spray equipment.

Finished up these oak ones yesterday. Normally I'm not a fan of gray cabinets but I think they went well in this kitchen.

Edit: I forgot to answer your original question as to why I started doing them. I work with my father who has just turned 62, it's just the two of us. He's in good shape and can handle physically demanded work. That said he's not getting any younger so I made the decision to get into cabinet painting because it's less taxing on the body.

He's always asking, what's with all these cabinet jobs? I feel like we're turning into a cabinet painting company. He's pretty much right, that's exactly what we're morphing into. Since I'm in charge of marketing I did it on purpose to protect and keep him healthy for as long as I can.


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It's all about developing a system and having a shop really is the ticket. For the last couple years I've developed a system that allows me to turn around an average size cabinet set in 2.5 days start to finish that look and feel amazing. I'd say so far this year a good 70% of my work has been cabinets and I've been doing them for the last month straight with two of the next three week scheduled with them.

I love doing them but they are definitely more stressful and it took me a while to really hone in on my system, products, and spray equipment.

Finished up these oak ones yesterday. Normally I'm not a fan of gray cabinets but I think they went well in this kitchen.


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Which products are you using now RBriggs, if you don't mind me asking.?
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even if youre getting good prices for interior work is it that much more lucrative to take the risk?
The biggest reason I enjoy the cabinets is that:
A: Quoting is easy. You can easily do a per door quote over text/email.
B: Can charge more, as it's a niche market. People will pay for it.
C: Much more satisfying than just another residential repaint. Yawn..

Don't get me wrong. Repaints are my bread and butter, but I've been doing it for so long that it no longer feels challenging. There is also more competition in general repaints, which always drives prices down. I love learning new stuff, and the more skills I have, the more valueble I become.
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Which products are you using now RBriggs, if you don't mind me asking.?
Sure, always BIN for primer. Top coat I've tried just about everything I can get locally and haven't found anything that beats the v50 Breakthrough. Those doors were sprayed at 3pm Thursday afternoon, transported and hung yesterday morning.

My house is a Breakthrough testing ground. I have it on my work computer desk, my oak staircase, cabinets, my handrails. Between my kids and my crazy Springer Spaniel we beat the crap out of it. The only touch up I've had to do in the last three years of having it all over my house is where the dog chewed it on a lower cabinet door.
That said I'm always on the hunt for something better I just haven't found anything that checks all the boxes like Breakthrough does.

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Just so I'm not mistaking. The V50 is the old high voc version? Ya.?
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Just so I'm not mistaking. The V50 is the old high voc version? Ya.?
That's correct.

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I lucked out my first month in business by connecting with an architect who owned a cabinet & millwork manufacturing facility with a detached spray shop. His in-house finisher had just quit and he was looking for another finisher. He ended up handing the shop over to me, rent & utility free w/unrestricted use & no-strings attached. Shortly after, I hired on a finisher who worked in the aerospace industry, contributing a wealth of technical know-how to the operations. Things just sort of snowballed from there, and Iíve been finishing cabinetry now for ~ 35 years, mostly new construction. The trend here shifted back to natural vs painted, going on 10+ years now, with just the periodic paint grade accent cabinet.
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Curious to others thought process on why you started painting cabinets and if you dont offer the service why not ?
There's a member on this site called Repaint Florida and I think all they do is paint cabinets. https://www.repaintflorida.com/
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We should summon him for his input. Not sure if he checks in here as much anymore.


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Anyhoo, just checked and he's still around. Hopefully he sees this thread.
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Itís Saturday, so RePaintís probably out riding his motorcycle and living the good life.

I wonder if he ever got that shop air-conditioned?


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Sure, always BIN for primer. Top coat I've tried just about everything I can get locally and haven't found anything that beats the v50 Breakthrough. Those doors were sprayed at 3pm Thursday afternoon, transported and hung yesterday morning.

My house is a Breakthrough testing ground. I have it on my work computer desk, my oak staircase, cabinets, my handrails. Between my kids and my crazy Springer Spaniel we beat the crap out of it. The only touch up I've had to do in the last three years of having it all over my house is where the dog chewed it on a lower cabinet door.
That said I'm always on the hunt for something better I just haven't found anything that checks all the boxes like Breakthrough does.

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On the rare occasion when you have to brush/roll the BT 50, what brush/roller combo have you have the most success with? Do you typically reduce around 5% or no?
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@Vylum What is the risk you are referring to? In residences there is very little I would refuse to pain. I even painted a stove once. I've been painting cabinets since my first year in business. Much to the irritation of a few companies that wanted to replace. I would tell clients the cost of painting and updating hardware and they inevitably went with paint. I also often did the insides as well as exposed surfaces. Clients were always thrilled!
something intimidating about high end cabinets. ive sprayed them and brush/rolled them but they were repaints in low light and not in the best condition so i didnt feel the pressure. if i bit the bullet and start advertising for them it seems like a decently sized investment monetarily speaking
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Top coat I've tried just about everything I can get locally and haven't found anything that beats the v50 Breakthrough.

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does that include benny moore products like advance ?
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does that include benny moore products like advance ?
The 16 hour recoat time automatically rules it out for me. Ain't got time for dat!

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Just finished brushing some bathroom cabinets with Advance semigloss HC-168, Chelsea Gray. I think Iím through using Advance in dark colors. Even after 24 hours dry, the first coat was still slightly tacky. The slow dry/cure has been an issue with medium-dark colors since Advance came out.

Iíll just go back to oil paint from now on. The recoat time is no different and Iíve certainly used enough of it in my time.


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