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View Poll Results: Since the worse part of the recession, how is your business today
The recession never affected me/us 5 11.90%
Things are actually getting worse 4 9.52%
No improvement yet 7 16.67%
I see improvement in the near future 3 7.14%
I/we are doing just a little better 12 28.57%
I/we are doing quite a bit better 11 26.19%
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:31 PM   #21
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Gabe,

Methinks you're making more out of this than intended. You are also coming awful close to tying this into a political stump thumping.

I am NO political or economical expert. And I would not even pretend to say that we have recovered from when bottom fell out of the market in 2007. It will be a long and arduous recovery no matter what anyone does. Historically, this is how it happens. In the great depression, the bottom fell out in 1929, and although there was improvement in the late 30's, we were not recovered until we entered WW II. Before everything got better for all, there were some segments that did look better.

This is being called the Great Recession and the official word is that it started in December 2007 and ended June 2009. Obviously there is not a gigantic switch that is labeled "Recession - ON/OFF" . There are little signs even as some are being laid off, facing foreclosures, and filing for bankruptcy. Again, there is no switch, recovery is a complicated process.


The poll was just to see how this segment of the work force was doing. Please do not politicize the thread. I am sure there are places on the internet where folks are more than willing to argue whose policies started it and whose policies will flip that elusive switch and make everything better overnight.



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I am not sure anyone here is claiming their business is "recession proof", that they say "what recession", or have stated they refuse to participate in the recession
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I have always had a theory that the painting trade is more recession proof than many businesses
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From the answers to the poll, it appears that this segment of the work force is feeling optimistic. That makes me happy.

And, I will stick my neck out and opine that this is a sure sign that the wide spread recession is easing its burden.
I simply disagree with you on this. Due to the signs I see. My experiences and current surroundings show me no indicators we are in recovery.
if you see them, I urge you to share it with us so many can breath again.


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Anyway, if you feel like expanding on your perceptions, please do.
I accepted your invitation and posted my perceptions. If you don't want too hear them then don't ask.

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I voted slight improvement based on calls or emails I get requesting proposals. Of course this is most likely because of my marketing strategy I put in place over a year ago, and my google ranking getting better.

Who knows, but I am feeling a little better. I will survive no matter what, I don't owe a bunch of money, and I have cut my workforce down to where I don't have to take jobs just to keep guys busy.

I can still pick up a brush or hammer and make a living right by myself if I have to. Still fairly young and the exercise is good for me. In other words I am not loosing any sleep.
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I accepted your invitation and posted my perceptions. If you don't want too hear them then don't ask.
Gabe, I said: I have always had a theory that the painting trade is more recession proof than many businesses

please note the words "theory" and "more" . I did not intend that to be a statement of fact that my business was "recession proof".

Also, please note my soft statements about "recovery". I admit this is a tiny sampling of a unique trade and this poll will not be used in Forbes as an economic indicator. So come on east and tar and feather me for looking for a little glimmer of light on the horizon. Sorry, I see something to be optimistic about.

After the tar and feathering, we'll go out for a beer and a 'gar.



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Bill, there is no tar and feathering, just a discussion of the topic. I know I come on strong, that just my character. So can we still have a beer and cigar
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Bill, there is no tar and feathering, just a discussion of the topic. I know I come on strong, that just my character. So can we still have a beer and cigar
But I LIKE tar and feathering

But if that's not your cup o tea, sure, we can still do suds and smoke



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I just voted "no improvement yet". Although that may seem as a satisfactory grade, it is not. Starting our 3rd year in biz, our goal was to double sales in our 3rd yr vs. our 2nd yr. We've got a few months to turn it around but the phone is not ringing off the hook. My forecast is 10 -20% improvement over last year. That's weak.
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I believe that the residential paint market is just not a very accurate measure of the economy at all. Most HO's do not have their finger on the economic pulse. They see Target's parking lot full and figure everything must be turning around so now I can spend some of my money.

The commercial market on the other hand is a slightly better indicator only in that companies tend to keep an ear more closely to the ground on economic indicators. In this case, the economy is still firmly in the dumps at least as far as commercial sales are concerned.

Our residential sales are about the same as last year's.
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