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Old 12-26-2015, 04:26 PM   #1
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My son has worked for me for 3 years now.Before he started I was one man shop.Currently it is just him and I and likely will remain that way.I pay him an hourly wage and he is capable of doing basic painting work on his own and doing it well.I would like to get him to the point of making a decent living out of this and realize that in order to make him salary he would need to basically put in as much time and energy as I do.I am curious as to how others have paid their kids and made the transition to making them a bigger part of the company and also getting them some good pay after time.
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Both of my kids worked with us. It was mostly in summers while they were in college or between college and grad school. They got paid hourly wages on the books.

They've both gone on to white-collar professions, but I think they learned some valuable lessons working with us.
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My son has worked for me for 3 years now.Before he started I was one man shop.Currently it is just him and I and likely will remain that way.I pay him an hourly wage and he is capable of doing basic painting work on his own and doing it well.I would like to get him to the point of making a decent living out of this and realize that in order to make him salary he would need to basically put in as much time and energy as I do.I am curious as to how others have paid their kids and made the transition to making them a bigger part of the company and also getting them some good pay after time.
My dad started Smith & Sons Painting in 1990 in Palmer, AK. My two brothers and I grew up painting in the family business. I am the middle son, graduated college with a business degree, got tired of working for other people and decided to take control of my future. June of 2015 I went in to business with my dad and made the business an LLC, with plans to grow the business. We are able to both take an hourly wage(according to work output) then at the end of the year we will take a percentage distribution of the profit. Ownership % and distribution % can change each year as I take on a bigger role in the business and my dad nears retirement.
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In the summer I like to take my son on some jobs with me, usually the more laid back ones, he is only 8yrs old - I don't force him to work he just likes to go with me, mostly playing games on his tablet - but sometimes he will grab some things for me, I ask him if he is going to work with dad when he gets older, he says no way! If anything he has learned the names of the tools
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My son is 2.5 yrs old. Few more years to go before he can run a festool haha. The Amish framing crews I see onsite bring some young helpers like 12-14. Not sure how legal it is...
Looking forward to teaching my kid the skills I learned but unlike myself is lie him to at least finish college regardless if he takes up painting.
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My son has worked for me for 3 years now.Before he started I was one man shop.Currently it is just him and I and likely will remain that way.I pay him an hourly wage and he is capable of doing basic painting work on his own and doing it well.I would like to get him to the point of making a decent living out of this and realize that in order to make him salary he would need to basically put in as much time and energy as I do.I am curious as to how others have paid their kids and made the transition to making them a bigger part of the company and also getting them some good pay after time.
I'm a son that started off hourly and made the transition to owner. I worked hourly with him for a long time and learned the ins and outs of the business and it was run. When it came time I took 50% ownership and a lot more responsibility. I handle all the marketing, every customer interaction from start to finish, scheduling, and ordering supplies. We both price and type up estimates depending on who looked at the job, and if we both did he writes up the proposal.

He handles all the business licenses (we need one for each town we work in and pay a percentage of each job to each town/county) insurance, vehicle maintenance, bookkeeping, and pays the bills. It's pretty equal imo and has worked out well for us. My end is more stressful but he put in his time dealing with that stuff so I don't care.
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My son is 2.5 yrs old. Few more years to go before he can run a festool haha. The Amish framing crews I see onsite bring some young helpers like 12-14. Not sure how legal it is...
Looking forward to teaching my kid the skills I learned but unlike myself is lie him to at least finish college regardless if he takes up painting.
My son just turned 11. We painted his room together when he was 6. I rarely get a situation where I can bring him on a job, so it's usually something at my place or his Mother's.
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I hired one of mine on the books then fired him a couple of months later. Lol
Ahh the joys of parenting....
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I don't have my kids working but many people think they are my kids. How can I have eight 25+yr old kids that don't even look like me? I hope they don't think our 40 year olds are my kids too. Getting older.
My real daughter? I tried the Mike P's thing but she escaped
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If it were me, I'd probably cut the hourly wage and throw him a contact instead. This way he gets paid on performance, you don't have to pay him till the jobs done plus when he gets good he could he could always sub contract out work at an hourly wage in the future.

I don't have any kids working for me but I did work for my dad painting many years ago and I wish he gave me an opportunity like sub contracting from him. I know I would have really appreciated it.
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When he's home he works for me has since a kid. But he's usully on the road
Now he's riding for Flip and Supra shoes I think lol.

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I hired one of mine on the books then fired him a couple of months later. Lol
Ahh the joys of parenting....
I can relate lilpaintchic. My son lasted a couple of summers. At first he did well. Then, maybe seeing how tough painting can be, he started showing up late, couldn't find the job site, came back late from lunch, etc. Finally, I had to give up on him helping with any high end jobs. I stuck him with apartment repaints. It took him a week to do ONE room in an apt. That was the end.......
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My biggest problem with him was a disrespectful attitude and insubordination. He just couldn't separate work from home. So I did it for him. He wanted to argue about tasks and such....I gave him fair warning but it wasn't fair to the other guys on the crew and I wasn't going to allow it. The other guys really liked him but the attitude just lacked professionalism on the job...eh--he's gotta learn the hard way. He's been struggling ever since....it's tough as a parent to learn how to let em struggle...
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