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Default Custom mahogany front door unit.

I have a builder who's building a house for himself. He has evidently spent a small fortune on a custom mahogany door unit. He's looking for a urethane gloss finish "Like glass". I have a decent airless (imo). No hvlp. Curious what products others are using for superior results and what steps you are taking to do so. I realize I'm new here and dont really know anyone. I would really appreciate some feedback on this one. I live just south of Cincinnati. I use PPG an SW mostly. I'm not to far from a Miller bros. so that's a possibility as well. Thanks!
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Default Custom mahogany front door unit.

Sikkens is what I would use for sure.
The Door & Window clear comes in gloss.

To heck with any spar varnish/urethanes. I started using Sikkens years ago and it's the best in my experience in initial looks, ease of maintenance, and longevity.

Not sure where you might find it at a retail outlet where you are, but lots of different retailers carry it.

Also, I have been wanting to try this stuff;

http://bristolfinish.us/

Looks awesome, and I've heard a lot of good feedback about it. Haven't tried it yet though.


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Another good suggestion would be possibly Epifanes. Everyone always has good stuff to say about them. Man-o-War is another good brand. I wouldn't worry too much about the yellow, it'll help the mahogany to have a warm tone.

Depends on the finish your after and what your he wants maintenance wise etc.
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If you go the Sikkens route, your ppg can get it in if they don't stock it. They own Sikkens.

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I'd second others recommendations of Sikkens Door & Window and Epifanes. You can't go wrong with either product.




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Sikkens cetol? I've never used this. Thanks for turning me on to this guys I appreciate it! Really surprising no store has ever recommended this product. Thanks for all the recommendations!
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Sikkens worked great! I will definitely use this product in the future. This is only 2 coats. Will be adding at least 1 more coat when the house is further along. Thanks for all the recommendations. What a great product!
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Nice. Which Sikkens did you go with? Did you stain it with it as well or just a clear?

Keep up the good work.
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Sikkens worked great! I will definitely use this product in the future. This is only 2 coats. Will be adding at least 1 more coat when the house is further along. Thanks for all the recommendations. What a great product!
IMHO, it looks a bit early to be installing let alone finishing those doors. It still has only house wrap and no exterior finish , whatever that may be. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that will not be a pretty by the time the exterior
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IMHO, it looks a bit early to be installing let alone finishing those doors. It still has only house wrap and no exterior finish , whatever that may be. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that will not be a pretty by the time the exterior
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It's probably better than the wood being hit with dirt and uv rays during the building process.
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It's probably better than the wood being hit with dirt and uv rays during the building process.
The best thing would have been to wait until the exterior was finished before hanging these. Most jobs I've been on with expensive doors they will hold off and put up a temp. door.
Say the brickeys or stone masons go wild with some mortar, or some carpenter or drywaller slams into them and gouges them? Not worth taking the chance!
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Say the brickeys or stone masons go wild ... and gouges them? Not worth taking the chance!
Exactly what happened on my last NC job.
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Not sure what was the rush. All I can do is say my 2 cents. I told him to cover it well and cross his fingers. Should have waited....
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Not sure what was the rush. All I can do is say my 2 cents. I told him to cover it well and cross his fingers. Should have waited....
Ya, I know what you mean. Back in the mid -90's we had a big contract to tape and paint Ameritech Cellular stores which were being built all across the area. The GC was insistent on installing the carpet and the vinyl base as soon as his men threw up the sheetrock, what a cluster_ _ _ _. We never could get an answer out of him as to why he was doing this!
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Ya, I know what you mean. Back in the mid -90's we had a big contract to tape and paint Ameritech Cellular stores which were being built all across the area. The GC was insistent on installing the carpet and the vinyl base as soon as his men threw up the sheetrock, what a cluster_ _ _ _. We never could get an answer out of him as to why he was doing this!
Probably money. Might get paid more to lay flooring than painting, based on draw %.

Who knows. A lot of times it's just plain stupidity. We did some apartments and the cleaning crews were doing rooms we haven't done yet, just so they could keep them going and get paid. Then management complained about the rooms being dirty after spraying. Hey, put the cart in front of the horse, that's what happens.
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Probably money. Might get paid more to lay flooring than painting, based on draw %.

Who knows. A lot of times it's just plain stupidity. We did some apartments and the cleaning crews were doing rooms we haven't done yet, just so they could keep them going and get paid. Then management complained about the rooms being dirty after spraying. Hey, put the cart in front of the horse, that's what happens.
The carpet and base where installed by a flooring company, not the GC. You don't know how hard it is to tape drywall with the base already on. It's a real PITA!
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Ya, I know what you mean. Back in the mid -90's we had a big contract to tape and paint Ameritech Cellular stores which were being built all across the area. The GC was insistent on installing the carpet and the vinyl base as soon as his men threw up the sheetrock, what a cluster_ _ _ _. We never could get an answer out of him as to why he was doing this!
so he could get his employees to another job? Maybe one that paid better?
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so he could get his employees to another job? Maybe one that paid better?
Do you think they were doing these for free?
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Thanks! Stain was varathane I believe (menards). Cant remember color. Used the clear window and door Sikkens. Good stuff. Unbelievable finish for 2 coats.
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Nice. Which Sikkens did you go with? Did you stain it with it as well or just a clear?

Keep up the good work.
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Funny, I went by the job today and bricklayer was setting up....?? so much for that beautiful door. Still yet to be covered for protection....
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