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Old 01-14-2015, 06:53 PM   #21
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I think this is my last question...

Is the process longer if we go with a solid stain? Seems like solid stain requires more steps in the process?

Semi-trans seems to require stripping (assume this cleans at same time) and then 1 coat of stain? Maybe I'm way off here?

Thank for helping me out on this!
I personally like semi-transparent. Sometimes 1 coat, other times 2. I did 2 coats semi on all sides before install when I built my home. Been 8 years and it's time for a coat next year. I won't be stripping. Stripping can raise grain and increase prep. Sometimes it's necessary.
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Old 01-14-2015, 11:04 PM   #22
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I would wash it and apply SW Stain Remover with a pump sprayer then neutralize it with SW Restore, power wash it off without blasting the wood. You will have a great looking surface ready to take stain. Not a cheap process.

I would plan on using a solid stain. I have also had excellent results with SW Log Home Stain.
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Speaking as the board's resident top-hack...If I were going long-oil primer and solid stain, I'd say get the dirt off, and it's pretty much ready to go.
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I think this is my last question...

Is the process longer if we go with a solid stain? Seems like solid stain requires more steps in the process?

Semi-trans seems to require stripping (assume this cleans at same time) and then 1 coat of stain? Maybe I'm way off here?

Thank for helping me out on this!

If you go with a semi-trans the prep work would be a lot more involved. All the old stain would need to be removed, which means a two step washing process at minimum. Oxalic brighteners can work wonders on cedar but you may find those dark water stains to be stubborn and they would stick out like a sore thumb under semi-trans.

Prep for solid could be as easy as bleach and wash. Knock the dirt off and go, as Steve put it

It looks like there are some water stains in unusual places on the siding. Looks like one on the right side of that window and in the inside corner more than half way up. To me that suggests a gutter leak or some other problem with the roof or flashing. Need to fix that first if its not been done already.

Couple tips if you've not P-washed stuff like that much.

Do the deck first so it doesn't get spotted up from chems going on the siding. Keep the cleaned deck wet while chems are being applied to the house.

After you have everything washed and rinsed off, rinse it again. Then, rinse it again. The wood hair created from P-washing cedar is incredibly tenacious. You'll think you have it all rinsed off and when it dries its still everywhere. If you let the wood hair dry on the gutters or the wrapped facia it can be a pain to remove. Plus it likes to hide down in the grain of the cedar. Rinse, rinse, rinse!
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Prep for solid could be as easy as bleach and wash. Knock the dirt off and go, as Steve put it

I don't think I'd wanna get it wet. Some of that looks like it'd swell up like Chrisn's knee on a hot day.

Maybe run a sander over it, and blow off the dust.

What's the deal on the decking, TC? Are you doing it too?
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I don't think I'd wanna get it wet. Some of that looks like it'd swell up like Chrisn's knee on a hot day.

Maybe run a sander over it, and blow off the dust.

What's the deal on the decking, TC? Are you doing it too?
Not doing the deck; they're going to replace it. Which means another stain job down the road...
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TCPaint, it is always good to back brush/roll this way you make sure the top surface if bonding to the primer.
Do I need to back brush/roll the primer or just spray?
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Do your stain warranties differ from your paint warranties? If so, how?

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Do I need to back brush/roll the primer or just spray?
It's very important to back brush the primer this way will bond better to the wood.
As for warranty is the same most of the new waterborne solid stain is good.
I use Arborcoat most of the time or WoodScapes.
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This job was done with Arbocaot solid stain.
Full coat of tinted oil base fresh start, full coat of solid stain.
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This job was done with Arbocaot solid stain.
Full coat of tinted oil base fresh start, full coat of solid stain.
Looks great! I hope I can talk them into a brighter color like that...just more fun to apply!
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This job was done with Arbocaot solid stain.
Full coat of tinted oil base fresh start, full coat of solid stain.
Based on this pic attached, what do you think I'm dealing with? Can't tell if that was a solid or trans stain in the reddish color. Thoughts? Looks like semi-trans.

I haven't been to the property yet...I'm visiting the property this weekend, so will test if stain is oil or latex...but...if that reddish stain is latex is it ok to put an oil primer over it? I assume I'll have to stick with latex primer. The owner has zero knowledge of the stain and can't ask the previous homeowner for whatever reason.
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It doesn't matter what they use barely any color left.
Oil primer will stick to latex paint you will have no problem.
Don't forget to put a little paint thiner with the oil primer.
Just make sure you let it dry before you put the final coat.
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I haven't been to the property yet...I'm visiting the property this weekend,
The HO sent you the pics in the OP?

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so will test if stain is oil or latex..
How?
I don't think the "alcohol test" will work cuz that color would come off with some spit too.

PP's right..it doesn't matter if you use an oil primer

Nice lookin' blue house BTW PP.
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This job was done with Arbocaot solid stain.
Full coat of tinted oil base fresh start, full coat of solid stain.
That looks awesome!


Great job!
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