Hardwood Floors - Paint Talk

finishesbykevyn · 11-16-2012, 07:05 AM

I usually don't get into re-finishing harwood floors if I don't have to. (Not glorious work). However, what type of clear coat do you prefer using ?
Also, If you were doing a complete re-paint as well, would you prefer to do the floors first or last? Thoughts?

kdpaint · 11-16-2012, 07:56 AM

I like ZAR UltraMax. Floors last usually.

Csheils · 11-16-2012, 08:03 AM

Floors last. If they were stair treads that were raw, I'd say stain them and then at least a single topcoat before breaking into paint. If they're being refinished, floors last and expect to touch up the base.

mpminter · 11-16-2012, 08:40 AM

Some of the most durable finished on the market these days are the waterborne floor finishes. I did the floors in my house with a product called Street Shoe by Basic Coatings and i have been blown away. You can recoat this stuff in half an hour and after a year, the durability is outstanding. The only issue is that it isn't cheap. I think I spend something like $80/gallon for this stuff. There are other good waterborne finishes out there by Bona and I think a couple other places too, but according to my research Street Shoe was the top of the food chain.

There are also moisture cure finishes out there that are as good or better, but the smell from these products is horrific. I have heard of people opening jars in the refrigerator after their floors were done and they said they could smell the finish in the jar. Nasty stuff.

finishesbykevyn · 11-18-2012, 03:41 PM

Great stuff guys. Floors are being re-finished, so I'm assuming a modest amount of sanding should be done on them first, so I don't kick a bunch of dust on my finished walls...Maybe a first coat too. Finish the ceiling, walls, etc. then final coat(s) on floors.
If floors were a type of Varnish before, would you trust one of those acrylic products over that?

mudbone · 11-18-2012, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpminter

Some of the most durable finished on the market these days are the waterborne floor finishes. I did the floors in my house with a product called Street Shoe by Basic Coatings and i have been blown away. You can recoat this stuff in half an hour and after a year, the durability is outstanding. The only issue is that it isn't cheap. I think I spend something like $80/gallon for this stuff. There are other good waterborne finishes out there by Bona and I think a couple other places too, but according to my research Street Shoe was the top of the food chain.

There are also moisture cure finishes out there that are as good or better, but the smell from these products is horrific. I have heard of people opening jars in the refrigerator after their floors were done and they said they could smell the finish in the jar. Nasty stuff.

Not bad money if it performs like stated. You'll pay that much for a gal of Minwax at SW.

kdpaint · 11-18-2012, 08:47 PM

ZAR Ultramax is 60 or so. Lenmar makes a nice alkyd for 30ish, waay better than minwax.

11-16-2012, 07:05 AM	#1
finishesbykevyn Kev D. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newfoundland Can. Posts: 1,667 Rewards Points: 1,141 Thanks: 378 Thanked 227 Times in 195 Posts My Photos	Hardwood Floors I usually don't get into re-finishing harwood floors if I don't have to. (Not glorious work). However, what type of clear coat do you prefer using ? Also, If you were doing a complete re-paint as well, would you prefer to do the floors first or last? Thoughts?

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11-16-2012, 07:56 AM	#2
kdpaint Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,653 Rewards Points: 1,058 Thanks: 913 Thanked 1,004 Times in 641 Posts My Photos	I like ZAR UltraMax. Floors last usually.

11-16-2012, 08:03 AM	#3
Csheils Dry as Rye Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 497 Rewards Points: 340 Thanks: 149 Thanked 242 Times in 151 Posts My Photos	Floors last. If they were stair treads that were raw, I'd say stain them and then at least a single topcoat before breaking into paint. If they're being refinished, floors last and expect to touch up the base.

11-16-2012, 08:40 AM	#4
mpminter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Groton, CT Posts: 953 Rewards Points: 572 Thanks: 302 Thanked 513 Times in 286 Posts My Photos	Some of the most durable finished on the market these days are the waterborne floor finishes. I did the floors in my house with a product called Street Shoe by Basic Coatings and i have been blown away. You can recoat this stuff in half an hour and after a year, the durability is outstanding. The only issue is that it isn't cheap. I think I spend something like $80/gallon for this stuff. There are other good waterborne finishes out there by Bona and I think a couple other places too, but according to my research Street Shoe was the top of the food chain. There are also moisture cure finishes out there that are as good or better, but the smell from these products is horrific. I have heard of people opening jars in the refrigerator after their floors were done and they said they could smell the finish in the jar. Nasty stuff.

11-18-2012, 03:41 PM	#5
finishesbykevyn Kev D. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newfoundland Can. Posts: 1,667 Rewards Points: 1,141 Thanks: 378 Thanked 227 Times in 195 Posts My Photos	Great stuff guys. Floors are being re-finished, so I'm assuming a modest amount of sanding should be done on them first, so I don't kick a bunch of dust on my finished walls...Maybe a first coat too. Finish the ceiling, walls, etc. then final coat(s) on floors. If floors were a type of Varnish before, would you trust one of those acrylic products over that?

11-18-2012, 08:47 PM	#7
kdpaint Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,653 Rewards Points: 1,058 Thanks: 913 Thanked 1,004 Times in 641 Posts My Photos	ZAR Ultramax is 60 or so. Lenmar makes a nice alkyd for 30ish, waay better than minwax.