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Old 08-29-2014, 02:35 PM   #1
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All kinds of fail.
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Old 08-29-2014, 02:37 PM   #2
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Is that a fiberglass door Dean?
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Nope. Steel. Probably from the 70's.
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Ok, then I know they type your talking about. I don't get to see all that many exactly like in the picture, and usually they aren't in that rough of shape. Looks like you got your hands full making that look presentable.
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Add plastic trim so it can't just be torched or sanded off.
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And intercoat oil-latex failure.
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And intercoat oil-latex failure.
Does it appear that that gray primer over the cream (original?) is latex? I can see three layers and was wondering about which layers could be latex. No way to tell from the pics of course. All I know is I don't envy your prep work.
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Bottom layer peach (primer?? For orange , then bright orange, then salmon, then cottage red. Cottage red latex for sure. I think there is a oil
salmon followed by latex salmon.
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Best tool for the job so far.
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I don't see a failure, I see a challenge!

(Sorry, trying to be more positive)
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And this is about to hit
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If that were my door, I would be replacing it.

Probably less labor.
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Would it make sense to remove the plastic trim, prep the door, then replace with new trim.
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Jasco, and grind down a putty knife so it fits between the muntins.
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Would it make sense to remove the plastic trim, prep the door, then replace with new trim.
We had a pair of entry doors like this, some of the trims were even broken (thanks, paperboy). We removed all the panels and epoxied carriage bolts into the holes. We added extra bolts to complete the pattern and painted the door. The interior sides were coated with so many coats of badly applied latex that they looked like frozen snot. We were removing all of that paint with grinders and stripper pads when the client saw the stripped metal surface. She was so taken with the look of the brushed metal that she had us clearcoat the inside faces.

Fifteen years later, the doors still look great, inside and out.
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This is a maintenance deal. Painting association pays, replace HO pays. No one ever wants to replace. I wonder if removing trim pieces and bondo the holes would pass association rules.
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This is a maintenance deal. Painting association pays, replace HO pays. No one ever wants to replace. I wonder if removing trim pieces and bondo the holes would pass association rules.
We have tried the bondo approach on other doors with that problem. What we saw was that the areas around the holes were proud, so that wasn't a satisfactory solution.
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We have tried the bondo approach on other doors with that problem. What we saw was that the areas around the holes were proud, so that wasn't a satisfactory solution.
Does proud mean higher. The opposite of dimpled.
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Does proud mean higher. The opposite of dimpled.
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Yes, proud enough that grinder wasn't a solution. Some of the high spots were more than 0.021 in. out of plane. That's a magic number on 24 ga steel.
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