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Old 10-04-2009, 04:40 PM   #1
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We stop right around late October since the temp drop to mid 40s. I guess it'll vary regionally. I see a lot of HO who don't want anything done unless it's in the 60 at least, so these people are already out of the question right now.
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Well, we have one left to do here in the pacific NW, but I may try to hold it off till next year.It's not so much that you can't paint, but the dew point is low until almost noon, so it hard to tape and then the dew point over night can discolor your paint job.
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If we are using oil, we add Japan driers and go until we can't stand it. (been years since I did that)

If it is latex, as long as the substrate is above 35 degrees, we will think about it. But it would be a short day. (start late enough for it to get somewhat warm, stop early enough for the paint to get pretty dry.)

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If we are using oil, we add Japan driers and go until we can't stand it. (been years since I did that)

If it is latex, as long as the substrate is above 35 degrees, we will think about it. But it would be a short day. (start late enough for it to get somewhat warm, stop early enough for the paint to get pretty dry.)

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I'm not slinging any. when I was a kid the first egg I was going to throw on Halloween broke in my hand. I don't think I ever did it after that.
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I'm trying to finish one right now in ND. The temps are hovering at the 50 degree mark. It wouldn't be that tough to finish except we've been getting alot of rain as well. Moisture from rain takes quite along time to burn off when the temps remain low and little sunlight thru the clouds.

Lol, we had 3 inches of rain friday and mist all day yesterday with no sun, so today I was putting up gutters on this house and drove by a place I did an estimate for months ago. I didn't get the job. But I see the guy who painted it there today finishing up some windows, and it had just rained.
It will be interesting to see if those windows hold out.
I wonder how much he charged...
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I was at a house the other day and they had a can of SW Superpaint. It says it's safe to apply in temperatures as low as 35 degrees. I have never used this product before and am wondering if it works well?
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We did this last winter with Superpaint, they stopped when it got to 45.
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Went by it a while, still looks great!
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40 to 45 degrees is our limit. We'll get lucky and do a job or 2 in November because we typically have 5 to 7 days a freakish warm weather. But it plays hell on scheduling.
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I was at a house the other day and they had a can of SW Superpaint. It says it's safe to apply in temperatures as low as 35 degrees. I have never used this product before and am wondering if it works well?

Did one 3 years ago using that product. Started on the sunny side late in the morning when it got to about 40 degrees. Moved around the house as it got warmer. The key is the temperature of what you are painting. If it is 40 out, but the siding is still 33 degrees, you are going to have a problem. Get a digital pyrometer (sp?) from radio shack. (fancy thermometer)
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Looks great!

I don't do exteriors ever, but if the occasion came up I may give superpaint a try
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I know oil needs be warmer than the newer super paints, and since we were using oils, I would never start an exterior after Oct 1. Well, as I just told another, the word "never" is inaccurate. I had to learn.

Not only was it a matter of temperature, but also of moisture, either as dew or as rain. And after you wash a house, it takes a long time to dry, unless you get a couple of perfect autum days with a nice breeze.

It just wasn't worth betting on Mother Nature here in New England.



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I will be doing exteriors this year till I can't anymore, then I will just be replacing siding/trim and schedule the repaints for the spring. I plan on working outside as long as I can all winter long, if need be go jump on a framing crew. I will not let the economy take me down, AND yes superpaint or Fortis (which I like to use) is good to 35deg. SO I will be doing so. Also, I notice the first week of January or around there is usually the winter warm up week where it gets warm for a week, I plan on trying to use that to my advantage also.
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Bout now, getting cold here in Nebraska. Got down to 33 over the weekend. But generally, mid to late October weather permitting.
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I painted a home up here in New England 4 years ago, started Nov 1. And the very last day was Dec. 1. Used P&L Accolade eggshell {35 degree paint} and the job still looks perfect. I remember the very last day of the job - I saved that side of the house for sunset warmth. It worked perfectly. The very next day was extremely cold and never had another warm day until spring. Literally finished on the last perfect day of the year. I consider Nov. 15 to be my exterior deadline from now on.
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I painted a home up here in New England 4 years ago, started Nov 1. And the very last day was Dec. 1. Used P&L Accolade eggshell {35 degree paint} and the job still looks perfect. I remember the very last day of the job - I saved that side of the house for sunset warmth. It worked perfectly. The very next day was extremely cold and never had another warm day until spring. Literally finished on the last perfect day of the year. I consider Nov. 15 to be my exterior deadline from now on.
Cut it pretty close there, plain. I wish weather was more stable around here, but with the lake-effect rain, snow, etc, you can never predict anything from day to day. It could literally be 45 on one day and in the 20s with heavy snow the next.
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OK, I'm throwing this thread a curveball.

y. , been meaning to mention on my way to Niagara for our NGPP convention last month, me and another hanger drove through Rochester and had dinner at the Dinosaur B-B-Q on the beautiful banks of the majestic Genesee - or should I say, precariously perched over the majecstic Genesee

I liked it. Good atmosphere, good beer, decent ribs, good service. Although it was a tad pricey. $56 for two of us.

Ya got a nice city there. Lots of good NGPP members also, if you ever need a good paperhanger.



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OK, I'm throwing this thread a curveball.

y. , been meaning to mention on my way to Niagara for our NGPP convention last month, me and another hanger drove through Rochester and had dinner at the Dinosaur B-B-Q on the beautiful banks of the majestic Genesee - or should I say, precariously perched over the majecstic Genesee

I liked it. Good atmosphere, good beer, decent ribs, good service. Although it was a tad pricey. $56 for two of us.

Ya got a nice city there. Lots of good NGPP members also, if you ever need a good paperhanger.
Glad to hear you liked Rochester and Dinosaur's! This is one of my favorite places...I go for the ribs/pulled pork/chicken combo since I can never decide on just one thing .

In terms of paper, I do need some decent guys from time to time. Mind PMing me a contact or two? Thanks.

PS - did you visit the falls while in Niagara? They are a sight!
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Yes, I visited both sides. As a kid we did all the tourist stuff - maid, cave, whirlpool, museum, etc. This time I walked the American side by myself and later went across the bridge with some fiends. We saw the falls get lighted up. Just amazing !

One of the funnier NGPP members, from Atlanta, was heard responding to, "Gee the view is so much better from the Canadian side",
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One of the best things happening was the Blues Fest while we were there. Blues, Beer, and Bikes!

the NGPP has a search engine to find a paperhanger.
http://www.ngpp.org/consumers_find_paperhanger.php

Just type in your zip code and it will give you the names. I'd hate to recommend any one specifically 'cause so many are my friends and all are competent. The ones I know extra well have last names like DiBacco, Hudson, Maurer, and Shwarz.



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I have done some over the years at any time of the winter BUT . If it had been my choose NOT. Contractor had to have it done. They sign off on a failure notice. The one I know failed within 3 years was I proud no. Did I try to get off it as fast as possibles Hell yes. Did I do what the costumer wanted yes.
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Still painting outside up here in Cleveland. Just had another callback today, that will most likely be the last one of the season. I'll finish up at about the last week of October (weather permitting). I have had interior jobs waiting for me, including a couple of anxious customers. I see guys in November around here all the time. Resilience is supposed to be good fro this time of year, but I'll probably stick with Super Paint.
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