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Old 04-07-2009, 02:03 AM   #1
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My next job is a repaint of a bedroom, bath, & closet. All three have murals in them. The murals are temper paint. Anyone have any tips other than sand, prime, paint. Will definitely be priming and using a flat paint but just wondering about making sure no texture shows through.

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I would be concerned about adherance of your new coats, and secondly bleed through. I usually top coat my murals with a semi gloss clear. I would look for that, also depending on the type paint used for the murals, did you say tempera? this could affect another top coat as well. I would suggest removing as much of all that as possible, then a good primer like you said. As far as impasto, or texture goes, you may have to take high points off with a big putty or Joint taping knife and do a skim coat and re-texture.
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what Cy said. The tempera will just become "wet" again when moisture hits it and will give bleed thru forever. Need to sponge/wipe it off then use a sealer/primer
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I'd try washing it off as best you can, maybe even mix up some Krud Kutter, then sand it up and maybe apply Zinsser Gardz over it. Fast drying thin clear sealer.

Post back here when you are done. Let us know what you did and what worked.
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Thanks will update w/ pictures.

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what Cy said. The tempera will just become "wet" again when moisture hits it and will give bleed thru forever. Need to sponge/wipe it off then use a sealer/primer
Hey Roadog, anyone still use tempera for murals? I never have, any advantage? Seems like it may be a PITA, but I don't know enough about that medium to say. I mainly use acrylics.
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Not that I know of. Most use acrylics. Sounds like a DIY job because I would imagine most muralist would have at least put a fixative on that paint.
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I know the muralist and am going to talk to her beforehand to find out what she uses. But I think I got confused on what tempera paints are.
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they are the water base paints in the kids area. finger paints, non toxic...some people use it for "body painting" which drys and cracks! Unless its "egg" tempera.
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I know the muralist and am going to talk to her beforehand to find out what she uses. But I think I got confused on what tempera paints are.
This is a good idea, the more info the better.



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they are the water base paints in the kids area. finger paints, non toxic...some people use it for "body painting" which drys and cracks! Unless its "egg" tempera.
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sorry no pics. But all we did was sand the piss out of it and put 2 coats of Promar 200 Flat on it. There were 2 places that didn't get sanded that well but thank God the furniture covered it up. The HO was more worried about bleed through than a little texture showing so it was no problem. In the powder room I used ProGreen 200 low sheen egg shell w/ 1/2" nap roller and the added stipple helped cover up the textured places.
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tempera is (by definition) a water soluable paint. Wash (with scrub pad) whatever you can. Residue should be sealed - I'd use a shellac based primer (B.I.N.) - and then paint.



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