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Old 03-07-2010, 10:43 PM   #41
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You are condescending I think, and no, we are a bit smarter than you think.
So, if you have a problem with the
this is all you have been selling here and even when we painters are not too stupid to buy it, you bring up the cheaper than Aura argument.
If you followed the discussions here for a while, the transportation issue has been discussed at length, the zero VOC panacea has been exposed as well and we get the "ECO" vs ECO thing.

Now, the sarcasm, the right wing BS and Al Gore comments,
they don't belong here, even if you are speaking for Sherwin Williams.




Never heard of them.
Are they widely used and promoted?
Any information would be welcome.
Me, sarcastic? Just thought I would liven the place up a bit...... In case you couldn't see I have belonged to this site for a few weeks, hardly long enough to pour through hundreds of old posts....but I am glad that the transportation thing has come up.........My political views are a little transparent I guess but we did just have the coldest Feb. here in the South that we have had in decades........just no proof to me, and I am not speaking for SW I am speaking for myself

BUT lets talk paint, Try o VOC Acrylic with envirotoners, Eco friendly if that is what you are aiming for.
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:28 PM   #42
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Me, sarcastic? Just thought I would liven the place up a bit...... In case you couldn't see I have belonged to this site for a few weeks, hardly long enough to pour through hundreds of old posts....but I am glad that the transportation thing has come up.........My political views are a little transparent I guess but we did just have the coldest Feb. here in the South that we have had in decades........just no proof to me, and I am not speaking for SW I am speaking for myself

BUT lets talk paint, Try o VOC Acrylic with envirotoners, Eco friendly if that is what you are aiming for.
Way to hijack this guys thread.....what did he want to know again?
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Alright its decided then....I'm using crayons....
See you guys are going on and on and on for nothing he decided on a product, even offered the business a discount if the kids did their own lockers.

I was trying to think of a thread title to move the debate into it's own corner but am feeling a little uninspired.
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See you guys are going on and on and on for nothing he decided on a product, even offered the business a discount if the kids did their own lockers.

I was trying to think of a thread title to move the debate into it's own corner but am feeling a little uninspired.

He may be on to something with the crayons.......maybe offer up some chalkboard paint?
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He may be on to something with the crayons.......maybe offer up some chalkboard paint?
I'm working on a new strategy to hire the 6 year olds and under.
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Did a similar daycare myself... Used SW Harmony. Zero VOC, great performance. Give it a try. Great paint! SWGuy - you said it! BM is simply no longer competitive, and no longer a good choice for contractors.
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It's all about prep work, and avoiding SW..."At ALL costs"

Make to many mistakes with colors, have NO idea what there doing, 1 in 3 orders "Is a mess"....one guy tryed to charge me $10 for a empty 5gal bucket becouse, he didn't have 5's of my material.."I ordered ,and PAYED for a week before"

The price is to high, and the staff sucks..along with the coffee.

"You just don't put latex on kids, play type areas..or high traffic areas... Porter; "Advantage 900" is the ONLY way to go in latex..UNLESS You visit your local BM dealer... sometimes Devoe/Glidden Commercial store "has the good stuff"

I would "at the very least"..Put Oil Primer on lockers...before applying Finish..
BUT, if NOT that, "scuff sand, with a palm sander, and apply Advantage 900, from Porter Paints
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It's all about prep work, and avoiding SW..."At ALL costs"

Make to many mistakes with colors, have NO idea what there doing, 1 in 3 orders "Is a mess"....one guy tryed to charge me $10 for a empty 5gal bucket becouse, he didn't have 5's of my material.."I ordered ,and PAYED for a week before"

The price is to high, and the staff sucks..along with the coffee.

"You just don't put latex on kids, play type areas..or high traffic areas... Porter; "Advantage 900" is the ONLY way to go in latex..UNLESS You visit your local BM dealer... sometimes Devoe/Glidden Commercial store "has the good stuff"

I would "at the very least"..Put Oil Primer on lockers...before applying Finish..
BUT, if NOT that, "scuff sand, with a palm sander, and apply Advantage 900, from Porter Paints

No kids working at my store, my part timer has 18 years with us. and I bet if you ever talked seriously with a SW rep you wouldn't think we were TOO HIGH......... If you buy enough we will make you what ever kind of coffee you want, the rep would probably take you out to Starbucks every morning if you want!
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No kids working at my store, my part timer has 18 years with us. and I bet if you ever talked seriously with a SW rep you wouldn't think we were TOO HIGH......... If you buy enough we will make you what ever kind of coffee you want, the rep would probably take you out to Starbucks every morning if you want!
another reason I use SW regularly, they blow sunshine up my skirt at the drop of a hat.

warm sunshine at that!

SW: Paid Lunch at the local brewpub, locations everywhere.

BM: Smelling delicious food at the Our Town event because it was "put away", and no local dealers that sell the paint I have vouchers for.

Oh I've had my fair share of issues with SW over the years, but they were all minor mistakes, and they always took care of it that day.
BM is a gamble with every different dealer location.
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SW: Paid Lunch at the local brewpub, locations everywhere.
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BM: Smelling delicious food at the Benjamin Moore Our Town event because it was "put away".
If I recall, you were an hour and a half late. Should they leave the food out so that you get food poisoning and have yet another complaint? Or should they have waited to start until you graced them with your presence?


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I can agree there. There are good dealers out there though.
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If I recall, you were an hour and a half late. Should they leave the food out so that you get food poisoning and have yet another complaint? Or should they have waited to start until you graced them with your presence?
The schedule read 5~8 p.m. there was no set schedule for eating/chatting/stroking/etc. clearly displayed on the mailer. It was such a bust, they shut it down @ 7:30.
There were easily 200 hundred unclaimed name tags sitting on the table as the lights were being turned off.

BM: Poor planning.

SW: Would have gone back into the kitchen, fired up the Viking range and tossed a few righteous steaks on. Fact.



So I take my "Our Town" voucher for some Natura paint to the local dealer (15 minute drive) only to find out he is not going to stock it, seeing as though he is one foot in the grave right now (2nd largest BM dealer in town, and well known by all of the local painters).

His store looks like it was looted as a matter of fact.

...Yay...

SooOOoOoOOooooo I drove another 15 minutes to get to the other dealer in the area, and thankfully my "windshield time" was not a complete waste. They had it.


Sherwin Williams > Benjamin Moore

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