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Old 02-06-2015, 01:21 AM   #1
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Even sanding over drop sheets I'm still getting a boat load of dust from my patches. Do you guys have any tricks for minimizing the dust even more? I've noticed it more on laminate than anything else. It's incredibly annoying, and a real pain in the back end to clean up, and takes a lot out of the day to actually clean up.
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We will use a damp sponge if we don't have out Festool vac on site. Be careful not to put to much pressure.
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Masking film. 72 inch taped to the wall as close to patch as possible. Unravel onto floor and sand away. Wad up gently when done.
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Also, when you go to walk away, smack the bottom of your shoes with a clean rag, this will prevent you tracking dust everywhere.
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$25 at any HD, hooks to any shop vac. Just make sure you get the best filters for your vac & a bag which contains fine particulate. Most will specify whether or not they're intended for use on sanding drywall. It's not the quality of Festool, but it's also not the price of Festool.
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$25 at any HD, hooks to any shop vac. Just make sure you get the best filters for your vac & a bag which contains fine particulate. Most will specify whether or not they're intended for use on sanding drywall. It's not the quality of Festool, but it's also not the price of Festool.
These vacs pay for themselves fast. I have a festool. Already paid for itself.
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$25 at any HD, hooks to any shop vac. Just make sure you get the best filters for your vac & a bag which contains fine particulate. Most will specify whether or not they're intended for use on sanding drywall. It's not the quality of Festool, but it's also not the price of Festool.
We have a few of these, family gave us as gifts. They work better than no vac but still no where 50% containment with a regular shop vac.

Another way is to hold you vac hose right under where you need to sand, this will catch a ton of the dust but again not 100% of it.
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These vacs pay for themselves fast. I have a festool. Already paid for itself.
We are working in a small commercial job and have had to sand a ton of patches. Festool has been saving us from the clean up steps. We have the Ct48 and RO125 on site for the sanding.

If my truck didn't break down again (blew the fan clutch again) we would have had the RTS400 instead.
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These vacs pay for themselves fast. I have a festool. Already paid for itself.

I agree, I have the festool vac & sanders. I know from past posts, the OP doesn't, so my suggestion was based on his situation.
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If I am doing a patch in a fully furnished home, I will wait until the filler is just going off and smooth it off with a damn sponge just to soften hard edges. Then sand with good old wet and dry 180 sanding pad and bingo, no dust.
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I've never had good luck with wet sanding the final patch. Smaller patches I will wet sand, but larger patches from re-taping a seam, etc, I just can't get nearly as smooth and feathered in. I can get them to disappear with sandpaper.
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Being good with a mud knife is the first step.
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Being good with a mud knife is the first step.
Yes, the first step to dust control is mud control. Being good with the knife is part of that. Another part of it is using appropriate patching compounds and not using more than necessary.

Sometimes "good drywall guys" are the worst for this. Here's an example
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See that little dent in the middle of that huge patch? That's how some "good drywall guys" patch stuff. That'll work but it creates a lot of dust and makes a big slick spot on the wall that you have to deal with.

As a painter (not a drywall guy) I would fix that with a one inch patch of vinyl spackle. Way less dust and not as noticeable when painted.

Sorry to go off on a rant, this is something I've been dealing with lately trying to go totally dustless on residential jobs. Old habits are hard to break.

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Lol, less is definitely better.

I've gone to look at jobs that required a fair amount of patching and when I show up to do the work the customer proudly exclaims "I've mudded all the holes for you! I used my kitchen spatula!"

They might as well have used a snow shovel.
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My basic setup.
prep bag , drywall bag.
mirka sander Festool ac/ 36
That investment saves me so much time .
another is plastic on drops .
Also the reusable poly comes in handy for furniture and stuff.
advance drywall knives are the best .
5 min mudd
fan and heater.
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