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Old 07-23-2016, 10:47 PM   #1
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How do you prep peeling cedar shakes so they are smooth enough for painting.
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Replace them
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Those shingles look pretty bad. Is the wood rotting?

You can sand them with 60 grit or use a wire wheel on a drill.




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Those shingles look pretty bad. Is the wood rotting?

You can sand them with 60 grit or use a wire wheel on a drill.




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I'm not a carpenter to be replacing them. And there's quite a lot of peeling around the house.
The orbital sander will damage the profile. Won't the wire wheel do the same?


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You'll have to get creative and fashion your own scrapers. I did a 130 year-old cedar split shake home and ran into the same dilemma. Keep a bench grinder close, get a quality set of files, and make some magic!
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There's no easy way around it. You're in for a whole lot of scraping and sanding. I use carbide blade scrapers and an orbital sander with 60 grit in situations like that. As far as damaging the profile... Stuff gets old and there's no way to make it young again other than replacing them. We can however do a little aesthetic surgery and apply the latex makeup to make it look.... Better.
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You'll have to get creative and fashion your own scrapers. I did a 130 year-old cedar split shake home and ran into the same dilemma. Keep a bench grinder close, get a quality set of files, and make some magic!
Not to split hairs, but those aren't split shakes. They're a milled shingle, often sold under the name "Sidewall Shakes". Those can be fine with a ST stain, but once the owners start with paint, it can turn into a nightmare.

I'll agree on the part about having to get creative.
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Media blaster? Walnut shells perhaps.
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Media blaster? Walnut shells perhaps.
WRC is so soft, it's tough to find media that isn't too hard. Even corn cobs are too aggressive.
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WRC is so soft, it's tough to find media that isn't too hard. Even corn cobs are too aggressive.
Cotton balls?
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I used corn sugar media blasting on shingle before. Its soft enough for sure.
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Not to split hairs, but those aren't split shakes. They're a milled shingle, often sold under the name "Sidewall Shakes". Those can be fine with a ST stain, but once the owners start with paint, it can turn into a nightmare.

I'll agree on the part about having to get creative.
Not splitting hairs at all. Thanks for the clarification. I've been calling this siding by the wrong name forever.
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Not splitting hairs at all. Thanks for the clarification. I've been calling this siding by the wrong name forever.
The CSSB calls them machine-grooved shingles. They are R&R #1s (blue label) shingles that are run through a machine to give them that look. They call the "Certigroove".


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They sell them by the box, not the bundle and they are $pendy. The good news is that they are installed with much greater exposure, so the coverage is higher. The bad news is that they are double coursed, there is a second layer of shingles (undercourse) underneath each row.

They are a Royal Pain to patch if you damage them

We haven't had to deal with a house sided with them in at least 25 years. I've thought that, if we did, I'd price it for a full chemical strip.
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Has anyone media blasted with table sugar? Pretty soft from what I understand.
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Why not use Peelaway stripper? It's made specifically for jobs like this.
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i redid a job like this. I pressure washed them to get off most of the flaking. Light sand and scrape to any areas that needed it. I primes entire surface with Peel Bond after. Than top coat. Peel bond makes world of difference.
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