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Old 05-11-2015, 11:47 PM   #1
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It's been awhile since I have had to deal with solid core doors that are pre-primed. These are higher end doors and according to the spec sheet that accompanied the doors " products are primed with a low VOC primer"

Typically when dealing with MDF trim it's a no brainier that it gets hit with another coat of primer. The primer on these doors seems of better quality, isn't chalky or rubbing off easily like most MDF. I believe Lynden doors was the manufacture.

Planning on shooting with 310 or 413 tip using SW Pro Classic WB 2 coats.

If we prime, it will be 123 plus.

Ever a case when you don't need to prime?
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Old 05-12-2015, 12:24 AM   #2
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I don't prime pre-primed doors. Usually the edges are raw, so they'll get hit quickly with sanding sponge before 1st coat & between 1st & 2nd coat.
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I might prime a door if it looks cheap but for the most part I don't prime pre-primed doors either.


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I don't prime mdf trim or doors. Why prime trim? I usually just do 2 coats of BM Aura
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Doors turned out fine.

But in retrospect, would it have been advisable to hit these these doors with a light coat of Coverstain from a spraycan. In essence to give it get a "light" bond coat? (No sanding just a very light coat)
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Depends on the job. If it's a high end job I prime. If it's a rental or the customer is on the cheap side I don't prime.
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I don't get that guys prime pre primed. It's crazy. When something gets given to you in this world. You accept it.
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I don't get that guys prime pre primed. It's crazy. When something gets given to you in this world. You accept it.
I've never reprimed either. It doesn't really make sense to me.
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I agree with Oden and Wildbill, but I have used their logic to justify the opposite in the past:

If the world gives you a client who is willing to pay you to re-prime a pre-primed door, you accept it.

It's crazy not to.
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I agree with Oden and Wildbill, but I have used their logic to justify the opposite in the past:

If the world gives you a client who is willing to pay you to re-prime a pre-primed door, you accept it.

It's crazy not to.
Absolutely, if you're doing T&M for sure. If they were to ask me if it was necessary, I'd immediately say no.

If you're doing T&M for a GC, I'd give someone exactly one dollar (Canadian. You get a loonie.) if they can find me a GC who would ask for the doors to be reprimed.

I did have a GC ask me to 3 coat a whole house full of mdf skinned doors recently. Mostly because they looked like crap after the second coat because the paint he made me use was garbage.

............and the fact that the house he was building was for his mother who's nickname was "dragon lady" and he knew she'd never accept the two coated doors that looked like crap.
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............and the fact that the house he was building was for his mother who's nickname was "dragon lady" and he knew she'd never accept the two coated doors that looked like crap.
Between this guy's mom and all those interior cottage decs, you've had quite the string of shrillness lately.

Hope your luck turns come Canada Day. Wishing you a drama and dragon queen free rest of the summer!
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Well. If it is NC and bid off of prints. A door is going to be bid for three coats. A prime and two finish. Right?
I'd it comes in pre primed-.one down. If it comes in preprimed and the finish happens to be a white, something that covers- bam one coat for three. Beautiful. The job makes money and there is room for the inevitable damage repaint. Get paid for the damage repaint-bam and beautiful. You bid three, you put on one and got paid again for the second. Don't get paid for the inevitable damage repaint? Eeeh it was worth a try and u are still a coat ahead....cry poor and carry on. Is how it works.

I don't think the guys that dabble in the NC really get that. They think in black and white. And in this game everything is grey,
And they get murdered playing it cause they think black and white.
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I don't think the guys that dabble in the NC really get that. They think in black and white. And in this game everything is grey,
And they get murdered playing it cause they think black and white.


I think a lot of folks in this game think and act as you describe, but are careful not to advertise as such publicly.

Your post may set off a string of responses about business ethics, most of which will be genuine, a few blatant posturing.

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I think a lot of folks in this game think and act as you describe, but are careful not to advertise as such publicly. Your post may set off a string of responses about business ethics, most of which will be genuine, a few blatant posturing.
Yeh. Is it like pro wrestling? Or are they sincere. There are some of both I'm sure. On here. It's hard to tell though. Without being there, seeing em, knowing em.....then I can tell
And the sincere think it's real. Pro wrestling. Lol
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Yeh. Is it like pro wrestling? Or are they sincere. There are some of both I'm sure. On here. It's hard to tell though. Without being there, seeing em, knowing em.....then I can tell
And the sincere think it's real. Pro wrestling. Lol
I was doing a couple interior rooms for repeat client who was in a last minute rush getting his home ready for son's wedding reception. HO had a separate crew onsite repainting what turned out to be almost everything outside. HO kept adding to the exterior scope of work throughout the week. Exterior Boss loved it, happy to get the extra work while onsite, and just gave a number for garage, shudders, porch, as each was asked for.

At the end of the week, in front of me, Boss handed HO bill and HO with checkbook in hand asked, "Everything get two coats?" Boss paused, figuring out which of the two ways he was going to go with his answer.

Was he going to stop and explain, "No, you never specifically asked for two coats, there wasn't anywhere close to being time for two coats, I didn't in any way represent or spec the job for two coats, nor did I charge you for two coats."

Nope.

Instead, Boss answered, "Yup. Everything has two coats paint on it. And the spots we took down to bare got a primer coat first."

So what were these two coats Boss was talking about? Well, 1 coat existing paint, 1 new coat they applied that week. Except in a few spots that had peeled to raw wood. They got one coat CS and one coat paint.

And we all just clap and cheer, and believe in our hearts Rowdy Rowdy Piper earned that three count on Iron Sheik...
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Between this guy's mom and all those interior cottage decs, you've had quite the string of shrillness lately.

Hope your luck turns come Canada Day. Wishing you a drama and dragon queen free rest of the summer!
No doubt. Thus far 2015 has easily been my most challenging year in terms of dealing with customers. There have been a few normal people, but not many.

Given what I've got lined up, I don't think this is going to change for the rest of the summer. Why do these people find me or I find them?
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