Stain Rough Side Clapboards - Paint Talk - Professional Painting Contractors Forum
CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, IT'S FREE!
Go Back   Paint Talk - Professional Painting Contractors Forum > Professional Painters > Surface Preparation and Application

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-06-2016, 11:41 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Pete Martin the Painter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Gloucester, MA
Posts: 2,109
Rewards Points: 210
Thanks: 1,510
Thanked 807 Times in 448 Posts
View Pete Martin the Painter's Photo Album My Photos
Default Stain Rough Side Clapboards

I am estimating a job for an exterior. The clapboards are rough side out, and the south side of the house is in rough shape. I will have to scrape. So, the question is how, after scraping, do I get the best appearance. If I sand, it will smooth out the clapbords, and will male it look different from the areas where the stain remains. If I do not sand, l also get a terrible look. I believe that there is only one coat of stain. Should I remove it all with a chemical strip? Thanks.
Attached Thumbnails
Stain Rough Side Clapboards-1459953643049.jpg  

__________________
Ancora Imparo (I'm Still Learning)--Michelangelo

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Pete Martin the Painter is offline   Reply With Quote

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. PaintTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-06-2016, 12:32 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 389
Rewards Points: 579
Thanks: 1
Thanked 157 Times in 109 Posts
View Phinnster's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Light scrape
Sponge sand
Oil primer
Should not loose the rough side out appearance
Phinnster is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Phinnster For This Useful Post:
Pete Martin the Painter (04-06-2016), PremierPaintingMa (04-06-2016)
Old 04-06-2016, 01:25 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Pete Martin the Painter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Gloucester, MA
Posts: 2,109
Rewards Points: 210
Thanks: 1,510
Thanked 807 Times in 448 Posts
View Pete Martin the Painter's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phinnster View Post
Light scrape
Sponge sand
Oil primer
Should not loose the rough side out appearance
I get so used to thinking that the Festool should be used to sand everything (although I do not use it for everthing), I often forget that there are other methods. Thanks.
__________________
Ancora Imparo (I'm Still Learning)--Michelangelo

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Pete Martin the Painter is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-06-2016, 01:49 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 389
Rewards Points: 579
Thanks: 1
Thanked 157 Times in 109 Posts
View Phinnster's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Pete
This is just the way I would tackle it
I deal with rough side out a ton
I love it and it usually does not peel

Others may have different thoughts
Phinnster is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Phinnster For This Useful Post:
PremierPaintingMa (04-06-2016)
Old 04-06-2016, 03:15 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Westwood, Ma
Posts: 688
Rewards Points: 100
Thanks: 1,634
Thanked 651 Times in 321 Posts
View PremierPaintingMa's Photo Album My Photos
Default

+1 Phinnster.
Do not remove it all, no need for that.
It looks like a solid stain, just scrape and use wire brush no need to sand, power wash let it dry, full coat of tinted fresh start oil primer. than use solid stain over. If it was me I wouldn't use latex paint on this.
PremierPaintingMa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2016, 04:23 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Pete Martin the Painter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Gloucester, MA
Posts: 2,109
Rewards Points: 210
Thanks: 1,510
Thanked 807 Times in 448 Posts
View Pete Martin the Painter's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PremierPaintingMa View Post
+1 Phinnster.
Do not remove it all, no need for that.
It looks like a solid stain, just scrape and use wire brush no need to sand, power wash let it dry, full coat of tinted fresh start oil primer. than use solid stain over. If it was me I wouldn't use latex paint on this.
It is a solid oil stain. Not using a paint. Solid stain.
__________________
Ancora Imparo (I'm Still Learning)--Michelangelo

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Pete Martin the Painter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2016, 10:26 PM   #7
Flog a Mocker
 
Tonyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 1,493
Rewards Points: 116
Thanks: 522
Thanked 641 Times in 357 Posts
View Tonyg's Photo Album My Photos
Default

You could use a wire brush/wire wheel depending on how prominent the profile..
__________________
"Drudgery is honorable"
Tonyg is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tonyg For This Useful Post:
Old 04-06-2016, 10:33 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,885
Rewards Points: 1,156
Thanks: 339
Thanked 1,020 Times in 652 Posts
View MikeCalifornia's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonyg View Post
You could use a wire brush/wire wheel depending on how prominent the profile..
Ditto, just put a wire cup wheel on a grinder and it will go quick.
MikeCalifornia is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MikeCalifornia For This Useful Post:
Old 04-07-2016, 12:24 AM   #9
kmp
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Montrose Colorado
Posts: 1,538
Rewards Points: 2,500
Thanks: 134
Thanked 573 Times in 419 Posts
View kmp's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Just make sure the wire cup is worn down a ways because a brand new one will tear the hell out of soft wood. I used to break down new ones by grinding them on the curb to get the sharp off of them.
kmp is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kmp For This Useful Post:
Old 04-07-2016, 07:07 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Pete Martin the Painter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Gloucester, MA
Posts: 2,109
Rewards Points: 210
Thanks: 1,510
Thanked 807 Times in 448 Posts
View Pete Martin the Painter's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonyg View Post
You could use a wire brush/wire wheel depending on how prominent the profile..
I have never heard of a wire cup.
__________________
Ancora Imparo (I'm Still Learning)--Michelangelo

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Pete Martin the Painter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2016, 07:44 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Pete Martin the Painter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Gloucester, MA
Posts: 2,109
Rewards Points: 210
Thanks: 1,510
Thanked 807 Times in 448 Posts
View Pete Martin the Painter's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Ok, looked up wire cup.
__________________
Ancora Imparo (I'm Still Learning)--Michelangelo

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Pete Martin the Painter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2016, 07:49 AM   #12
PRC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,352
Rewards Points: 46
Thanks: 2,089
Thanked 954 Times in 564 Posts
View PRC's Photo Album My Photos
Default

I remember Ken talking about Osborn brushes for wood restoration and Ive been wondering how they would work for this type of project.
PRC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2016, 09:35 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
NACE's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fairfield, CT
Posts: 1,127
Rewards Points: 1,142
Thanks: 383
Thanked 1,035 Times in 463 Posts
View NACE's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete the Painter View Post
It is a solid oil stain. Not using a paint. Solid stain.

Ben Moore has a new Arborcoat Solid in dead flat they introduced last year, the 610 line. I painted a cedar fence with it in white, over 150 feet, both sides over aggressively prepped pickets. I was impressed with the hide and the handling of it, especially the dead flat yet smooth finish that hides a lot of scares, held back bleed, and did not accumulate any dirt over the winter despite being on a very busy road that is very close to the fence. The dead flat may hide some of the issues related to sanding rough side cedar claps. I rolled it with 4" microfiber sausage rollers. Too close to the road to risk spraying.
NACE is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to NACE For This Useful Post:
Old 04-07-2016, 12:07 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Pete Martin the Painter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Gloucester, MA
Posts: 2,109
Rewards Points: 210
Thanks: 1,510
Thanked 807 Times in 448 Posts
View Pete Martin the Painter's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NACE View Post
Ben Moore has a new Arborcoat Solid in dead flat they introduced last year, the 610 line. I painted a cedar fence with it in white, over 150 feet, both sides over aggressively prepped pickets. I was impressed with the hide and the handling of it, especially the dead flat yet smooth finish that hides a lot of scares, held back bleed, and did not accumulate any dirt over the winter despite being on a very busy road that is very close to the fence. The dead flat may hide some of the issues related to sanding rough side cedar claps. I rolled it with 4" microfiber sausage rollers. Too close to the road to risk spraying.
Thanks. I will check it out. Seems like the best option for me.
__________________
Ancora Imparo (I'm Still Learning)--Michelangelo

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by Pete Martin the Painter; 04-07-2016 at 12:13 PM..
Pete Martin the Painter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 03:12 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Pete Martin the Painter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Gloucester, MA
Posts: 2,109
Rewards Points: 210
Thanks: 1,510
Thanked 807 Times in 448 Posts
View Pete Martin the Painter's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Anybody use one of these? Kind of like a wire cup, but nylon.
Attached Thumbnails
Stain Rough Side Clapboards-1460311943296.jpg  

__________________
Ancora Imparo (I'm Still Learning)--Michelangelo

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Pete Martin the Painter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2016, 04:08 PM   #16
Moderator
 
Wildbill7145's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,044
Rewards Points: 5,366
Thanks: 3,940
Thanked 4,538 Times in 2,509 Posts
View Wildbill7145's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Never seen them before, but just looked them up. They've got 80, 120 and 240 grit versions. Appear to get pretty favourable reviews on Amazon. I would have to imagine that would eat a drill up from overheating if you had to do a surface of any decent size.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Wildbill7145 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Wildbill7145 For This Useful Post:
Pete Martin the Painter (04-10-2016), PRC (04-10-2016)
Old 04-10-2016, 09:34 PM   #17
PRC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,352
Rewards Points: 46
Thanks: 2,089
Thanked 954 Times in 564 Posts
View PRC's Photo Album My Photos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete the Painter View Post
Anybody use one of these? Kind of like a wire cup, but nylon.
Ever try using a cup wheel on a drill, it's not that easy. A side handle helps but a grinder is what you need for extended use. As I said in a previous post I haven't used them but these may be worth considering.
http://www.sashco.com/products/finish-sanding/
They may wear faster since paint is generally harder than wood.
PRC is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to PRC For This Useful Post:
Reply

Tags
None


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sherwin Williams Pro Mar solid stain goodasgoldpainting General Painting Discussion 13 03-16-2016 07:55 PM
Gel Stain Alternative ddelaney Surface Preparation and Application 22 02-16-2016 10:20 PM
Spraying Doors No Stick Side MessUp McGregor General Painting Discussion 17 11-05-2015 01:30 PM
Prep Before Solid Stain Pete Martin the Painter Surface Preparation and Application 15 09-28-2015 02:19 AM
Little help here? Light stain over dark? Flabgoat General Painting Discussion 11 09-22-2015 11:55 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Our Pro Sites Network
ContractorTalk.com | DrywallTalk.com | ElectricianTalk.com | HVACSite.com | PlumbingZone.com | RoofingTalk.com