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Old 02-13-2015, 11:18 PM   #41
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If the HO complains about the seams showing, make sure you reassure her/him that metallics very often broadcast their seams more than paper because of the reflective qualities. It's like trying to get two metal plates EXACTLY at the same angle and butted together so it looks like one continuous piece - IMPOSSIBLE.

Glad you were able to find someone who was able to help and teach. Tell me how you installed. Clay? Paste back or wall? And you say it was double cut on wall.

Pink paint matches paper well (little girls' room, I assume)

BTW, who the hell is installing BAREFOOTED. And I don't think I've seen a table quite like that. I don't understand how one would trim on a table that has the hinge line going side to side. Folding tables that I am familiar with have a length-wise hinge so one can trim paper at either five or six feet - depending on table length.



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Old 02-13-2015, 11:28 PM   #42
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Ok, so the install was very different to the way I have been taught or not taught.

Size wall
Measure and cut the 4 full drops required.
Relaxed the paper in a bucket of water......just the first 6" of both ends to avoid the side from curling.
Zinsser paste ready made out of bucket
Paste the wall
Trim about 6" of paper by hand at say 2 foot intervals to show overlay pattern easier and then double cut once on the wall.

The carpet was brand new white carpet, so we were both barfoot, I was too lazy to get more drop sheets out of the car!

My Dads old tables are hinged length ways like you say, however he did no cutting on this table today.
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He did say that the backing paper was that heavy it wanted to separate from the Mylar?

He called it an over engineered paper?
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Wow, he installs barefoot... he's like a Ninja Paperhanger.

Oh, there was a third page, y'all already mentioned it.


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Wow, he installs barefoot... he's like a Ninja Paperhanger.

Oh, there was a third page, y'all already mentioned it.



I guess you could drop a length of fully pasted paper on your bare foot!
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I guess you could drop a length of fully pasted paper on your bare foot!
Well I can't stand to climb a ladder barefoot. The ridges distract me from what I'm doing. I had to work in socks once and couldn't stand it.
I carry booties with me.

Hey kudos for a job well done. I admire you for muscling through a tough job and sticking with your friend as he worked; and taking in all that learning.
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Well I can't stand to climb a ladder barefoot. The ridges distract me from what I'm doing. I had to work in socks once and couldn't stand it.
I carry booties with me.

Hey kudos for a job well done. I admire you for muscling through a tough job and sticking with your friend as he worked; and taking in all that learning.

Me neither..........I would have carried shoes to the drop sheet and put them back on. He did not even mention it.

The job I am very happy with, no matter how different the install was. Looks great as a finished product.

Just watching someone who puts paper up every day is an amazing confidence boost for me. I even filmed parts but forgot to take a picture of his 6" cuts to reveal the pattern. Easier to show image than try and say how it was done!
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Stupid posting videos........wanted to have player on screen but it does not work!


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.zenfolio.com/zf/core/embedvideo.aspx?p=0f11a1db.10" frameborder="0"></iframe>



http://stevelockyer.zenfolio.com/img...813787-215.mp4




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Ok, so the install was very different to the way I have been taught or not taught.

Size wall
Measure and cut the 4 full drops required.
Relaxed the paper in a bucket of water......just the first 6" of both ends to avoid the side from curling.
Zinsser paste ready made out of bucket
Paste the wall
Trim about 6" of paper by hand at say 2 foot intervals to show overlay pattern easier and then double cut once on the wall.

The carpet was brand new white carpet, so we were both barfoot, I was too lazy to get more drop sheets out of the car!

My Dads old tables are hinged length ways like you say, however he did no cutting on this table today.
I do not understand this part, maybe Bill will explain
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Chrisn, he took most of the overlap off before placing the paper so he could easily match the pattern. But he just took off a 6" long by say 2" wide strip so he can see the bottom sheet easier.
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If the techniques in this thread were any farther over my head, I'd need binoculars to even see them.
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One reason I hate double cutting is that you do have to "pre-trim" before hanging to see the the pattern.

You say he did a 6" long piece (at 2 foot intervals). What I find a bit quicker is just to snip a V from the edge to just shy of the trim marks. But still, pre-trimming the whole bolt to like 1/4 outside of the trim marks gives you the best view of pattern matching.

And sometimes those damn trim marks are RIGHT AT the pattern match which makes d.c.'ing very tricky. Using a laser level is good for that. Without moving the laser, hang both strips so the trim marks are on the waste side and trim to the laser line. Again, more reasons I care not to d.c.


That was an accent wall only, right? So he wasn't wrapping the inside corner, correct ?

As to bare feet. I've dropped too many sharp objects to chance bleeding onto a carpet. I do carry a pair of absolutely clean shoes for times I'm to lazy to drop out the full room.



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Even if I were to have taken such a job as this one, I'm a table cutting fool. I trim dry on the table and for some reason it is straight straight straight. It may gap so slightly that I can add some acrylic metallic gold paint and hide any whiteness that may show. I hate picking up the edge after a double cut on such a sensitive material.


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Yes dArch it was a feature wall only.

Underdog, I can understand cutting on the table...........my dad always used to cut on the table so this was new to me. He also would have trimmed it before install.
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