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Old 05-23-2020, 12:54 PM   #1
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I have a customer who wants to paint their cabinets a matte black. They are previously painted so it will be a repaint. I am having difficulty finding a Matte Black paint that would hold up. I guess another option might be to paint them black and apply a matte clear coat over the top if there is one?

I just wish there was an oil based Matte Black But I have been unable to find one.
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Advance Matte comes in a stock black.
permalac comes in a stock matte black.


You can also paint them black and use stays clear flat over them. Only do 1 thin coat though, more coats of flat poly with result in a milky appearance.



otherwise you can add some flattening agent like talc to a low lustre (satin) black oil paint like p23.

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Ya I wouldn't trust a Matte, especially in black without a clear coat.
I did a friends fridge door in the Advance black Matte and then 1 or 2 coats of Varathane Acrylic Matte. Turned out deadly.
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I have a customer who wants to paint their cabinets a matte black. They are previously painted so it will be a repaint. I am having difficulty finding a Matte Black paint that would hold up. I guess another option might be to paint them black and apply a matte clear coat over the top if there is one?

I just wish there was an oil based Matte Black But I have been unable to find one.
Milesi 2k polyurethane matte black and matte black clear topcoat
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Milesi 2k polyurethane matte black and matte black clear topcoat
Where do you get this Milesi product.? I just checked out thier website. Impressive, but gives zero info on how to buy/get? What's with that? I find the same for spray equiptment. Theyre so hush hush..Makes online shopping a nightmare.
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Milesi 2k polyurethane matte black and matte black clear topcoat
Where do you get this Milesi product.? I just checked out thier website. Impressive, but gives zero info on how to buy/get? What's with that? I find the same for spray equiptment. Theyre so hush hush..Makes online shopping a nightmare.
Call Clark Deco in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania. Ask for DC.
They sell Milesi wood coatings and are extremely knowledgeable
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Like a car, I would think black cabinets would look awesome - when they are clean. The trick (especially in a matte finish) would be keeping them that way.
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Like a car, I would think black cabinets would look awesome - when they are clean. The trick (especially in a matte finish) would be keeping them that way.
Yeah I saw a matte black dodge ram the other day, definitely don't look good unless it's spotless
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Solo from Sherwin comes in a flat. Then it could be topcoated with a flat clear finish. I think general finishes makes a good WB clear flat.
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Solo from Sherwin comes in a flat. Then it could be topcoated with a flat clear finish. I think general finishes makes a good WB clear flat.
Even though thoretically in French,Matte means flat, There is a difference between flat and matt. Just sayin.
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Beautiful job but it looks more eggshell than flat matte. Yup, I agree with RH, keeping matte black looking clean and nice will be a challenge, it's tough enough with satin or eggshell. Every tiny spot glares out! (Could mean future work for you, though. )
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Beautiful job but it looks more eggshell than flat matte. Yup, I agree with RH, keeping matte black looking clean and nice will be a challenge, it's tough enough with satin or eggshell. Every tiny spot glares out! (Could mean future work for you, though. )

looks like a dull 20 sheen lacquer to me. up here everyone wants 5-10 sheen. 20 sheen is often too much!
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Advance Matte comes in a stock black.
permalac comes in a stock matte black.


You can also paint them black and use stays clear flat over them. Only do 1 thin coat though, more coats of flat poly with result in a milky appearance.



otherwise you can add some flattening agent like talc to a low lustre (satin) black oil paint like p23.
coco, what about Coronado Rust Scat?

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Like a car, I would think black cabinets would look awesome - when they are clean. The trick (especially in a matte finish) would be keeping them that way.
Years ago I worked for a friend who had a janitorial service. He did some new construction cleanup, mostly commercial. One cleanup was a large new house in Long Grove Illinois. Most of the first floor was rambling and open, including hallways, kitchen, living room, family room etc. Solid oak floors were stained black and varnished with satin finish. The place was reasonably clean to begin with, so we started dust mopping the black floor at one end and worked our way to the other. By the time we had finished, the floor area we started at was now visibly dusty!

Turns out, the general contractor had tried to talk the home owner out of staining the oak floors black, but was rebuffed. I found out later that the HO had the GC strip all the black stained floors and finish them with something that would look "non-dusty" for more than 30 minutes.

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Or just talk them into a Satin. I did a friends cabinets in Black Advance Satin a couple years back. He never had any complaints..
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I think @Zoomer tried some rust scat as a cabinet paint, said it had more of a gritty feel than the premium BM oil paints which are more finely ground
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Milesi 2k polyurethane matte black and matte black clear topcoat
Where do you get this Milesi product.? I just checked out thier website. Impressive, but gives zero info on how to buy/get? What's with that? I find the same for spray equiptment. Theyre so hush hush..Makes online shopping a nightmare.
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What about Aura? Not the best cabinet paint, I know, but the sheen might be good...
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What about Aura? Not the best cabinet paint, I know, but the sheen might be good...
I would think you still want to add a clear coat if you used Aura..especially in a matte black.
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