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  1. Tonyg
    05-31-2016 11:49 AM - permalink
    Tonyg
    The messages come out reversed so read the first message sent so that they make sense.

    As you can see if you're just doing a couple decks each year it wouldn't make sense to stock several hundred dollars worth of Chems, not to mention storing them. If you do enough it is by far cheaper and once you get used to using them and some experience you will have more control adjusting the formulas to the finish you need to strip
  2. Tonyg
    05-31-2016 11:47 AM - permalink
    Tonyg
    Now, these formulas were not given to me. I used products like HD-80 and others to calculate a workable recipe based on the Msds sheets, suggestions from others, and testing. I would suggest you test them to see what works best. These are all formulas for a straight use - i.e. Sureflow, Deckster, hand brush, etc. to use through the PW you would have to factor in your draw percentages of your injector, PW gpm, and/or X-Jet draw to get the same ratio as using them straight.

    I would also expect that these not be made public. Remember, if you're the one wanting information the whole honey and flys analogy carries some truth.
  3. Tonyg
    05-31-2016 11:47 AM - permalink
    Tonyg
    So, in a 5 gallon bucket I mix 1 1/4 gallons chlorine (3.1% of the solution), 3 1/2 gal water, 4 oz NaOH (.63% of the solution), 1 oz SM (.16% of the solution), and 10oz surfactant (1.56% solution).

    For a stronger stripper I would use 8oz NaOH (1.25%), 2oz SM(.31%), 12oz surfactant, 1.5 gal chlorine (3.8%), 8oz polypropylene glycol (10%)

    For a hot mix for acrylics or solid stains you would use 12oz NaOH (1.88%), 3oz SM (.47%), 12oz surfactant (1.88%), 1.5 gal chlorine (3.8%), 8oz polypropylene glycol (10%), and 8oz of a butyl (10%).
  4. Tonyg
    05-31-2016 11:46 AM - permalink
    Tonyg
    The mix is also depending on what finish you need to remove. If it's an Armstrong Clark or Ready Seal semi-trams then I use a light mix of 4oz NaOH, 1oz of sodium metasilicate, and 10oz surfactant in 5 gallons of water. If there is mildew I add 1.25 gal sodium hypochlorite 12.5%. The surfactant that I used was given to me in confidence. A very high-end deck restoration contractor would not give it to me but gave me the telephone number of the person in the Midwest, that had a franchise covering three states, and he gave it to me along with advice. Unfortunately I don't still have his contact info and I haven't seen you as a serious deck restoration person doing primarily ducks or high-end work. Sorry just haven't seen it and if I had the name and number I wouldn't feel as though I had the right to give it out. Ask your local chemical supplier where you would get the rest of the Chems what their suggestion for a surfactant would be.
  5. Tonyg
    05-31-2016 11:46 AM - permalink
    Tonyg
    I'm sorry, your posts come across as somewhat 'entitlement'. Selling myself as an 'expert' or as a contractor that is above the rest in my local market means I need to be skilled and knowledgeable over that of others in my market. There are several other members here that are in my market, and I'm sure others that are just reading through. Giving details for someone of what I do is really no different that posting my prices. Personally, if you want information like that you should develop relationships where others want to sow into each other, to expect otherwise is a bit lazy. Sorry, that's just the way I feel.

    HD-80 and others are really a mix of sodium hydroxide, sodium metasilicate, and a surfactant. The SM helps the surfactant and the NaOH perform better and only takes a small amount. The surfactants are used as a 'wetting' agent so that the solution stays wet for longer allowing more dwell time and help the other chemicals work better and go deeper into the wood.

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