[flashme18]

how many people use these? i used them on large jobs where there was only 1 or 2 colors. The prices have been jacked up on the roller covers in HD's and Lowes up here in nyc area.. they want like 8 bucks ..i used to pay 4 down in DC area 18 months ago.

I used 12 inch rollers a lot down in DC also. They are more efficient as you can roll 50% extra per pass on the wall. Why are 9" rollers the standard? I havent found a pan for 12" rollers.. Only find those deep dish 18" buckets that work with the 12".

anyone use corner rollers?? i always cut them in with a brush but am curious to try a corner roller and save a few minutes.

what other time savers, tricks of the trade do you guys have?

 

[Rustbuster]

Get yourself a wheelbarrow, pour in a fiver of paint and use this to roll out of with your double size roller. Coat the inside with the stuff you put on spray booth walls for easy stripping when the wheelbarrow gets too thick with dried paint.

 

[bikerboy]

how many people use these? i used them on large jobs where there was only 1 or 2 colors. The prices have been jacked up on the roller covers in HD's and Lowes up here in nyc area.. they want like 8 bucks ..i used to pay 4 down in DC area 18 months ago.

I used 12 inch rollers a lot down in DC also. They are more efficient as you can roll 50% extra per pass on the wall. Why are 9" rollers the standard? I havent found a pan for 12" rollers.. Only find those deep dish 18" buckets that work with the 12".

anyone use corner rollers?? i always cut them in with a brush but am curious to try a corner roller and save a few minutes.

what other time savers, tricks of the trade do you guys have?

We use the corner rollers on jobs where the walls and ceilings go the same color, but we cannot spray. Or when doing long runs of walls the same color but have lots of corners due to the floor plan being cut up. (again not being able to spray.)

Eighteen inch rollers are great for long runs of walls. We use them whenever we can. (never understood if you can use a 12 why not use an 18?)

 

[boman47k]

I have a couple 18's I have used a few times but not for small rooms. Seems to be a lot of wasted painted when I clean them. For large straight very flat walls I can see using them. On some older walls or walls with heavy mud on the seams/patches, you need to be mindful of holidays. Some say they get heavy. Guess I have not use them on a big enough job to really notice it. I think the 12 is a good compromise on the smaller rooms. I use one of my 18' pans for the 12's. I may try a bucket with the screen in the near future. I never really liked the screens very much though. Guess it is something I may need to get used to.

 

[flashme18]

a wheelbarrow?? hahaha now that is funny and absolutely crazy ...i have plenty of trays and bucket style trays for 18 inch rollers..i just want a tray and plastic liner for a 12 inch roller...the extra large trays still dont fit them..

 

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I still have one of Wosters tray that I use, but have made a 4wheel cart for it.

 

[bikerboy]

I have a couple 18's I have used a few times but not for small rooms. Seems to be a lot of wasted painted when I clean them.
That is what the curved side of a 5 in 1 tool is for. A little wasted paint is still cheaper than labor.
For large straight very flat walls I can see using them. On some older walls or walls with heavy mud on the seams/patches, you need to be mindful of holidays.

On walls with dips and waves you may occasionally have to roll sideways.

Some say they get heavy.

Yes they do. I am worn out by the end of the day, but you use one for production not comfort. (that is why it's called work, not......fun)
Guess I have not use them on a big enough job to really notice it.

If you have 15-20 foot long or high walls (no windows) like a great room, you should try it.

I think the 12 is a good compromise on the smaller rooms. I use one of my 18' pans for the 12's. I may try a bucket with the screen in the near future. I never really liked the screens very much though. Guess it is something I may need to get used to.

I started using one an eighteen inch a couple of years ago when an old timer whom I respected, berated me for wasting time. (he was helping me to make money through production) His lessons on how to increase profits through increased production were invaluable and normally simple. (Learn to cut in with bigger brushes, use a longer/wider pad.)
His lessons do not work in every situation, but do work in many. I miss him.
:icon_cry: :icon_cry: :icon_cry:

 

[JNLP]

I prefer using 18"s. Nap prices are a bit higher, but the difference in labor more than makes up for it. Also if you buy them by the case from an actual paint store (not Lowes, HD, etc) you can usually get a pretty good deal on them. Charge the customer the extra couple dollars rather than yourself, then the small price difference don't matter. :thumbup:

Tip: If using for a small room where you don't feel the effort to clean up afterwards is worth it, simply put a plastic bag in it as a liner. Don't work so well for all day use though.

Tip: Using a rag to clean your bucket along with cleaning it asap after using, can easily save you 3/4 the amount of time it normally would take to clean. It sounds stupid, but I watch people do it the long way all the time for some reason.

 

[timhag]

I prefer using 18"s. Nap prices are a bit higher, but the difference in labor more than makes up for it. Also if you buy them by the case from an actual paint store (not Lowes, HD, etc) you can usually get a pretty good deal on them. Charge the customer the extra couple dollars rather than yourself, then the small price difference don't matter. :thumbup:

Tip: If using for a small room where you don't feel the effort to clean up afterwards is worth it, simply put a plastic bag in it as a liner. Don't work so well for all day use though.

Tip: Using a rag to clean your bucket along with cleaning it asap after using, can easily save you 3/4 the amount of time it normally would take to clean. It sounds stupid, but I watch people do it the long way all the time for some reason.

:whistling2: :whistling2: :whistling2: :whistling2: Have yet to see him using an 18''er.

 

[JNLP]

:whistling2: :whistling2: :whistling2: :whistling2: Have yet to see him using an 18''er.

We never have jobs it'd make sense using one on. :laughing:

 

[boman47k]

That is what the curved side of a 5 in 1 tool is for. A little wasted paint is still cheaper than labor

I agree.
Heheh, once when I was cleaning a sleeve with my 5 in 1, my boss at the time ("15 years experience") asked what I was doing. I told him I was removing excess paint so I could clean the roller sleeve. His response? "Huh, I 've never seen that done like that." Damn, I thought the curved part was selfexplanatory.

I still prefer not to use them on smaller rooms. Can be a pain in some close places.
For the most part Biker, we are on the same page.

 

[Z paint]

yea i like laying plastic down in a big roller pan and taping with duct tape so i can just through out the plastic and not clean the pan...another trick is if u are rolling with a nine and only have one metal tray supporter with u i tape a tube of caulk or roller cover under another plastic liner to keep it upright and sturdy..sounds like its cheesy but it supports a plastic liner just as well as a metal tray does

 

[Boden Painting]

I'll use an 18" most of the time, buying them by the case makes them more affordable and I can cover double the wall space with no lap marks. I'm surprised more guys don't use them, are they too heavy for most guys?

 

[boman47k]

yea i like laying plastic down in a big roller pan

I have done that too. I have also used garbage bags to cover the pan. When through, I just pull the bag off inside out and toss it.

 

[DWS DIABLO]

You mean to tell me you guys dont "accubrush!!"

 

[JNLP]

I'm surprised more guys don't use them, are they too heavy for most guys?

I often hear people say they're too heavy for them. When comparing my 9" to my 18" frame, they feel about the same. I don't understand how adding another 9" nap to your current 9" nap with a little paint can add "so much" weight? I'm skinny @ 150 and can roll with them all day every day. :thumbup:

 

[vermontpainter]

I used to know a guy who...:boat:

 

[Boden Painting]

I often hear people say they're too heavy for them. When comparing my 9" to my 18" frame, they feel about the same. I don't understand how adding another 9" nap to your current 9" nap with a little paint can add "so much" weight? I'm skinny @ 150 and can roll with them all day every day. :thumbup:

I hear ya although I'm a little more stout than you but it doesn't bother me to use one all day. And the other argument I hear is that the covers are too expensive. But the way I figure it is that if I'm doing double the work then it pays for itself in the first 15 minutes of work

 

[bungle bud]

i use them most of the time, it now feels strange using a 9 incher
i just finnished using a 18" wooster to apply some aura on a stair hallway.
infact the only time i use 9" is in closets,bathrooms and kitchens.

 

[Jeff.Chicago]

I use a 18 inch all the time! I've come to the conclusion that a 9 inch just doesn't cut it anymore. I've actually timed myself with each roller and there is quite a difference in labor time! 18's also come in handy when you are applying eggshell................ makes it a lot easier when you have to do a 20 foot wall in one stroke so that there is no flash.