[Barron]

Property solutions isn't bad. We just did a rental with it and one with Sonoran since I'm rather new to SW. Both are pretty decent paints for being in the mid teens price range. Not as nice as the DE Sparta wall or acriglo from vista, but it's cheaper and for rental units that's a-ok and a good selling point to me.

 

[chrisn]

I really, positively and am at loss as to why you guys buy the cheapest ( crap) paint you can buy. Is the paint cost coming out of your pocket? I think you need to review how you do business. In mine, the customer( client) pays for materials and labor, which means I get to use whatever quality paint I want. I mean, go ahead and buy the cheap bear stuff, but how in the world are you saving anything? I don't get it:no:

 

[1963 Sovereign]

I really, positively and am at loss as to why you guys buy the cheapest ( crap) paint you can buy. Is the paint cost coming out of your pocket? I think you need to review how you do business. In mine, the customer( client) pays for materials and labor, which means I get to use whatever quality paint I want. I mean, go ahead and buy the cheap bear stuff, but how in the world are you saving anything? I don't get it:no:

Some painters like a total dead flat paint on the lids,once you start making a paint washable you lose that dead flat quality,The more pricey a paint is the more of a sheen you get to show imperfections on those ceilings.

 

[Wood511]

Still something amiss here. Is it just me, or is Behr the only paint that is the subject of threads like these? With OP posts like "it's just amazing stuff, goes on great and is so cheap"...blah blah blah. It's really tough to take these guys seriously.

 

[scottjr]

And some of us are professionals trying to make a living. I happen to like this product. I could care less about HD and there corporate profits. However, my finish product and profits are very important to me. I generally use BM but the Muresco has not been very good and tends to be pricey. I have also used SW products. In fact I got the tip to use this paint from one of those two brands. Never used Behr and never thought about it until my sales guy told me that many of the local contractors like it. If tweaked properly its very effective. I have been through about sixty gallons in five months. We like it. We make money with it. My customers are pleased.

For me that's what matters.

I wouldn't want to use a ceiling paint that has to be tweaked but that's just me.

Like Chrisn said, the customer pays for the paint. I wouldn't use a $12 paint on my own house, let alone a customers.

 

[Carl]

I really, positively and am at loss as to why you guys buy the cheapest ( crap) paint you can buy. Is the paint cost coming out of your pocket? I think you need to review how you do business. In mine, the customer( client) pays for materials and labor, which means I get to use whatever quality paint I want. I mean, go ahead and buy the cheap bear stuff, but how in the world are you saving anything? I don't get it:no:

This is about ceiling paint. Isn't it all cheap? I have personally never understood the argument that who cares what the cost of the paint is if the customer is paying for it. Paint is a cost for the painter. Keeping a cost low if you can without affecting quality is how you win more jobs. It's simple math. Sure, if you are using some crap eggshell that costs less and you leave the customer with a job that looks like hell and doesn't wear well, that is different. This is ceiling paint. A high quality ceiling paint isn't something a regular painter should care about. We want dead flat ceilings that don't flash. The way you arrive at a dead flat paint is by using cheap ingredients in the paint instead of the good stuff. It's always seemed like a simple concept to me, yet for 25 years I'm switching ceiling paints every few months because Benny or Sherwin has major problems with consistency. Why not try and save some cash on ceiling paints if you can? It's the perfect product to do this with.

 

[READY TO ROLL]

If $100 is making or breaking a job for you then maybe you need to rethink your business strategy.

Me thinks you might want to rethink yours.

 

[Delta Painting]

Yawn!

 

[Barron]

I really, positively and am at loss as to why you guys buy the cheapest ( crap) paint you can buy. Is the paint cost coming out of your pocket? I think you need to review how you do business. In mine, the customer( client) pays for materials and labor, which means I get to use whatever quality paint I want. I mean, go ahead and buy the cheap bear stuff, but how in the world are you saving anything? I don't get it:no:

I think many people use the cheap ceiling paint due to the higher sheen levels on some of the more expensive paints from SW and others. I don't think the SW is a true flat, where as the HD kilz is pretty much dead flat and is cheap. In my line, different as it may be (rental units), we do pay for the materials and labor and thus go with a cheaper paint as long as it is still ok to work with covers decently full knowing that it's just ceiling paint and will get the crap beat out of it since its not theirs. Thus due to volume, saving 30 bucks per unit time and time again, over many units does help.

 

[Barron]

However, all in all I will use the Property Solutions or the Sonoran line from SW again even though its not as flat as some of the box store paints. Primarily due to the service I receive from actual paint stores vs big blue and big orange stores.

 

[Brian339]

This is about ceiling paint. Isn't it all cheap? I have personally never understood the argument that who cares what the cost of the paint is if the customer is paying for it. Paint is a cost for the painter. Keeping a cost low if you can without affecting quality is how you win more jobs. It's simple math. Sure, if you are using some crap eggshell that costs less and you leave the customer with a job that looks like hell and doesn't wear well, that is different. This is ceiling paint. A high quality ceiling paint isn't something a regular painter should care about. We want dead flat ceilings that don't flash. The way you arrive at a dead flat paint is by using cheap ingredients in the paint instead of the good stuff. It's always seemed like a simple concept to me, yet for 25 years I'm switching ceiling paints every few months because Benny or Sherwin has major problems with consistency. Why not try and save some cash on ceiling paints if you can? It's the perfect product to do this with.

This is exactly were I am coming from. I pay plenty for my BM wall and trim paint. Its pointless to lay down $30 or more for ceiling paint. I am not endorsing Behr. In fact I am willing to try any ceiling paint that works especially if its good value. I dont look at the other HD products. I have my go to products. Primarly Aura ext and Regal interior. I pay up plenty for those.
Seems like some guys cant wait to complain. This is just banter about ceiling paint. Its no big deal.

 

[chrisn]

Some painters like a total dead flat paint on the lids,once you start making a paint washable you lose that dead flat quality,The more pricey a paint is the more of a sheen you get to show imperfections on those ceilings.[/QUOTE]


not true at all

Here is all I use anymore, about $18 a gal

http://buyat.ppg.com/rep_pafpainttoo.../tdb/17-45.PDF

 

[1963 Sovereign]

I use SW CHB. $14 a gal. Behr has once again reared its ugly head.

was told by paint store manager that chb is 700 flat....that is the cheapest stuff right? I get them mixed up.

 

[plainpainter]

jeeez, I remember when $20/gallon was high end stuff for ceiling paint. A friend of mine swore by Dutch Boy Ceiling paint - who cares.

 

[TJ Paint]

jeeez, I remember when $20/gallon was high end stuff for ceiling paint. A friend of mine swore by Dutch Boy Ceiling paint - who cares.

30 bucks today is like 15 buck ten years ago.

 

[bbair]

I use SW CHB. $14 a gal. Behr has once again reared its ugly head.

What's that stand for? Ceiling high build? I've always wondered. Its pretty thick stuff. I'm a big fan of Promar 400 for ceilings.

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[DeanV]

Chicago Home Builders.

 

[Bender]

Shame on you
Every time you use Behr a puppy dies


:whistling2:

 

[vermontpainter]

Saving bucks on ceiling paint...huh.

 

[mudbone]

Have you tried the Kilz Pro x line? I've heard good things about it for ceilings but haven't tried it. I also have no idea how the two compare price wise.

I've used the Behr ceiling stuff before (customer supplied) and didn't like it. I found it to be too thick but didn't try cutting it down either. My main concern was that it wasn't a dead flat which is a must for me on ceilings.

This was a couple years ago and I've only used the paint on one job so my observations could be off. If I had to buy ceiling paint at hd I'd give the Kilz a shot.

:yes: great stuff!