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Hi. One of my customers wants to paint the attic of her barn , actually it is more like a small stable. It is all real old pine boards. IMO, it should be sprayed with 2 coats of B-I-N shellac, then 2 coats of matte finish. If the knots bleed through well then frig it , it's just a barn.

I don't ever spray so I am going to sub it out to another painter.
What would you charge as percentage of what that painter bids? Say, if he bids $1000.00 and I charge the customer $1400.00- does that sound reasonable? The 40% part not the theoretical price part. I've never been up against this as I usually don't sub my work out.
 

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Generally speaking, if I supply anything more than the lead, it's 60% to me, if it's just a lead and I don't do a thing... 20% i'm happy.
 

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ok thanks- I was thinking on a small job more of a % would be better.
Do you guys always ask for ins. certificates or go by people's word?
 

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Around here you better put an eyeball on it....and use a Sub's contract

Oh yeah, and yup on the BIN
That's about the only thing for making these old barn interiors white

That's not the lady in Brewster that wants to put a spare bed up there is it?
...lol
 

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Thanks Slick, where do i get a sub's contract- Staples?

No, not Brewster close tho- South Orleans. This woman just wants it to look "clean." Not much to do up there except store and sweat. I think it is a shame - i love those old barn boards.
 

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Thanks Slick, where do i get a sub's contract- Staples?
Hmmm...that...I don't have
I suspect you might be able to modify a client agreement...or it's a simple project, maybe make something up
But unless you know the sub, I'd have them sign something

Unless you'll be baby sitting
(I'm assuming it's a local day laborer from one of the Hyannis Projects)
Just don't assume it's done when they say it is...or done properly...maybe just checking it before handing them the cash would be enough


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This woman just wants it to look "clean."...I think it is a shame - i love those old barn boards.
Yeah, would want it to look like a barn or anything
:rolleyes:
 

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I would not want to either....and prolly that's why he's subbing it out

But realistically, spraying would allow a much shorter time in the haz-mat suit then rolling out the BIN...much shorter...much, much shorter

I know exactly what he's talking about, I wouldn't BIN it by hand, and oil won't cut the mustard, they are decades old dark and a pita to brush/roll
 

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Thanks for the info. I found a local guy to take look at it- I hope he takes it on and i hope he charges well.

What's everyone's opinion on checking/taking references in this situation? You go by first feelings on the guy or ask him to provide some references. It is kinda a small community around here and I guess if he's real bad you'll hear real fast.
 

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Ask to see his insur/liscense and reference sheet... if it takes more than two days.. don't hire em... if he has em on hand.. I wouldn't bother checking.
 

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Hmmm...that...I don't have

Unless you'll be baby sitting
(I'm assuming it's a local day laborer from one of the Hyannis Projects)
Just don't assume it's done when they say it is...or done properly...maybe just checking it before handing them the cash would be enough


:rolleyes:
Where do I find these "day laborers?" Do they hang out in the HD parking lot? Please elaborate. Or do I have to pack up my bulldog .44 and go deep in to find a B-I-N sprayguy.
 

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I have a sub contractors form- [email protected] and I can send it your way
Would not want to spray BIN in a machine. The smell and clean-up would be :censored:
I sprayed BIN in an attic the other. It actually wasn't too bad. I had to change the filters on my respirator after two hours, (it was about a four hour total job) that mask still smells like alcohol.

The cleanup was surprisingly easy as well. I was seriously dreading it. It took about one gallon of denatured alcohol to run clear then I just ran another gallon of mineral spirits through it.

It took less time than cleaning out latex. My filters are shot now... small price to pay I think.

One more thing, zip strip a nylon paint strainer over your intake. Even a brand new gallon of BIN is full of crap for some reason.
 

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Where do I find these "day laborers?" Do they hang out in the HD parking lot? Please elaborate.
No, they won't let them hang out in front of HD lol
You could wander around HD or Mid-Cape Home Center in your whites until someone approaches you...lol...(it happens)

For faster results head down to the corner of 28 and Bearse's Way in Hyannis
Take the side road just south of 28 on Bearse's
It's a left (if you're on Bearse's heading south), it should be Hirimar
If you miss it, take Fresh Holes Road
Doesn't matter, they go the same place, back up to 28, after they run into each other

There's some super crappy apt complexes on the left (well...all over but...), on the north side
You can pull into one of the parking lots, preferably one with a few "painting" vans in it, get out and yell "Painter...Need Painter...You Paint? ...Painter!!!...Need painter!!!"

Brush up on your pigeon English (or Portuguese) and hand signals, you'll need them for negotiations and instructions

I haven't been there in a year, but would be surprised if things have changed much
 
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