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Here are some more pictures. The wet ceiling is sherwin williams paint over KILZ. Promar 400. If you look to the top left of this picture you can see that it is drying in lines and is blotchy. This is exactly how it looks when it is dry. Those circles and lines stay flat but what dries last is shiny. Two of the pictures are side ways and I can't get them to turn for purposes of posting. But it shows the effect of the texture and are great examples of the paint lines and of the blotchyness, the one of just a short wall is eggshell paint over primer.
 

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poor finish/blotchy & lines

Hard to really tell, with photos, especially all mixed up/turned.

Possibly primer was insufficient to bring uniform surface texture over entire wall surface, or over applied in some places. Not atomized well enough?

Primer NOT completely dried before applying topcoat.
Tip not atomizing well enough causing film thickness variation which affects light refraction.

Good luck!
 

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Hard to really tell, with photos, especially all mixed up/turned.

Possibly primer was insufficient to bring uniform surface texture over entire wall surface, or over applied in some places. Not atomized well enough?

Primer NOT completely dried before applying topcoat.
Tip not atomizing well enough causing film thickness variation which affects light refraction.

Good luck!
Primer was dry. Sat over night. See BEHR PVA Primer rec's:
  • Dries to touch and can be topcoated in one hour at 77°F (25ºC) and 50% humidity. Longer drytime required in cooler temperatures and in higher humidity.
Well beyond this reccomendation as were in the desert, no rain for at least a week, and temps were not a factor after over 12 hours sitting with air ventilation.
 

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In your two threads on this topic, you have meticulously defended your practices and thoroughly covered all conditions relevant to the application of this paint. You have responded to all comers, and have been fortunate to receive questions and suggestions from many of painttalks finest contributors. You have presented a rather bizarre scenario with multiple variables, and specious photo representation. Many of us have taken time to engage in what equates to a good game of pin the tail on the donkey.

You are open to no other possibility than the fact that you must have had a bad batch of paint. I suspect that most of us would likely agree. That is your story and you should stick with it. If you can't make it stick, at least all of this back and forth on painttalk has you well prepared to defend your stance against the worst case scenario, should it happen. For the love of god, read some other threads and take your mind off this, for your own good.

Don't forget, the whole benefit of selling out to Masco, is that they must bear the brunt of any fallout in this situation, especially since they required you to use the likely defective paint. You are a company man now. You don't carry the same burden of liability that you did in your self employed days. And, yes, I know, you are proud of your work and your reputation. Sometimes we all need to set the ego aside and realize that certain things happen that are out of our control. If all that you are telling us is correct, then this must have been the case. Keep your mind open to the possibility that if Masco relieves you of your duties as a result of this quagmire, it may be the best thing that could happen for you.

Good luck to you.
 
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