[StripandCaulk]

I've used tons of that primer, X-200 I believe it's called? It's not a long dry primer. But to be honest I haven't seen a difference between long dry and quicker dry oil primers.

x200 is a slow dry. Quote watch it!

 

[SeaMonster]

I never understood the point of pwashing before sanding myself. You end up with a ton of dust on there. Pwashing never replaced scraping and sanding for me. It never took off more than 30% off wood and if you do it's probably damaging the wood.

Yes there is a difference in primers but if you're looking to save 150 bucks coverstain works ok.
How long have you been painting?

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u r saying you dont power wash at all or wash after sanding? Been painting for awhile, not a supreme expert like you im sure

 

[Brian C]

I would add a sizable percentage of penetrol to your oil based primer for some additional ahesion to the old surface.

 

[TJ Paint]

u r saying you dont power wash at all or wash after sanding? Been painting for awhile, not a supreme expert like you im sure

After sanding.

I'm not an expert, just been around long enough to know most of the basic wood primers.

 

[SeaMonster]

After sanding.

I'm not an expert, just been around long enough to know most of the basic wood primers.

I just use the couple primers my old boss used but again we do not do houses where too much paint is chipping. This one kind of surprised me.....

 

[Steve Richards]

I used to like to power wash...take a day off to fish, and then sand.

Then I'd take my leaf blower and blow the dust all over the city.

That was before RRP.

(Those where the days my friend)

 

[TJ Paint]

I do find it funny that your thread title was "best oil based ext primer", when after all the suggestions you then mention you actually want something under 20 bucks.

For that price range, then yes, coverstain would be the best fit. It's good but in my experience, it doesn't perform as well as long oil.

 

[Steve Richards]

Coverstain rulz

I used it today...and I have specs all over my forearms to prove it.

(takes about 3 showers to wear off)

That's quality!

 

[TJ Paint]

Coverstain rulz

I used it today...and I have specs all over my forearms to prove it.

(takes about 3 showers to wear off)

That's quality!

Coverstain days are the best because I get to rub myself all over with baby oil.

Baby oil is actually a great way to get it off...
And you can always get help with the process.

 

[TheRogueBristle]

Definite contradiction when you say you want to go the extra mile and use good primer, but also want to pay less than $20/gal for it. You want to spring for something, go for the Fresh Start.

 

[mpminter]

If you're trying to stay under $20/gal why not just slather it with whatever junk latex HD is selling and call it a day? If you're interested in quality products then I would stick with the BM, SW, or California products that have been mentioned.

 

[SeaMonster]

Thank you all for your help. Have a great weekend

 

[mudbone]

If you're trying to stay under $20/gal why not just slather it with whatever junk latex HD is selling and call it a day? If you're interested in quality products then I would stick with the BM, SW, or California products that have been mentioned.

Here now get a grip!:notworthy:

 

[alan]

got a house with paint chipping EVERYWHERE! we don't do allot of jobs where we need prime an entire side, but here we have to prime two huge walls. Right now we use zinsser oil exterior and love it but this house is in such bad shape I really want to give them a super quality prep job. What you guys use? Need something that can be sprayed and back-rolled

I actually like to mix fresh start oil with coverstain it seems to have a nicer flow with a nice body. sometimes ill add a little japan drier so its not tacky 24hrs later

 

[Ultimate]

Can someone please explain why Coverstain would be considered 'cheap' versus fresh start? Not saying inexpensive here, but cheap. As in how I am using an inferior product.

I allowed Sherwin Williams to talk me into an in house all purpose primer once instead of Cover Stain. Cost way more. And failed. I had to scrape doors back to bare surface and use Cover Stain. That was strike one against SW for me. In any event, point is, it's terribly difficult to teach an old dog new tricks especially when the old ones are dependable. If ..... Edit...... Let's hope they don't but still. It works. EVERY time for every tough job I give it.

 

[Steve Richards]

I don't remember when I started using coverstain..but I'd remember when/if I ever had a problem with (or because) it.
(which I don't)

Fresh Start is ok too... but you can't get it just anyplace.
Coverstain is carried pretty much anywhere that sells paint..far as I know.

Note: I'm NOT in love with it!
I do keep a gallon of it (and drywall primer) in the truck though.

 

[TJ Paint]

We should put a "shh" on this deal, don't want the high ups at zinnser/rustoleum seeing this.

Fatherandson, what was the sw primer you used?

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[Ultimate]

We should put a "shh" on this deal, don't want the high ups at zinnser/rustoleum seeing this.

Fatherandson, what was the sw primer you used?

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I'll delete that sentence.

I think it was All Purpose Primer. Sold me on it because I said CS was my all purpose and that simplified my purchasing decisions. Worked wherever I used it. Manager said it was a water based alternative all purpose good to go on metal doors even. Don't know what I was thinking. Little over a year ago.

 

[TJ Paint]

Sorry to hear they talked you into that one...

They talked me into something like that once too.

For all purpose, cs is the sht.

Just saying for wood ext long oil will probably perform a little better.

Although I must admit, I have used cs more than long oil. For one thing it takes a long time to dry, and where I was based for over 10yrs we had over 60% humidity most of the painting season. Sometimes it took a week for this stuff to dry.

Sure I could have mixed some dryers in it but then to me, that would counter act against the benefits of using it in the first place.

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[Steve Richards]

Sorry to hear they talked you into that one...

They talked me into something like that once too.

For all purpose, cs is the sht.

Just saying for wood ext long oil will probably perform a little better.

Although I must admit, I have used cs more than long oil. For one thing it takes a long time to dry, and where I was based for over 10yrs we had over 60% humidity most of the painting season. Sometimes it took a week for this stuff to dry.

Sure I could have mixed some dryers in it but then to me, that would counter act against the benefits of using it in the first place.

You are wise indeed, TJ...and you're just a kid!

I had the same problem on a house in the mountains here a few years ago. Last day...I go to paint the last side..still tacky!
..so back to my crappy little motel room, and my bottle of whisky.
(so the day wasn't completely wasted)