[ccpainting]

commercial estimating

anybody have pricing per foot for base molding or a square foot charge for walls?

 

[ProWallGuy]

The 'going rate' or 'price per whatever' is a fallacy. Charge what you need to do the job, and make money doing it.

 

[ccpainting]

thats what I have been doing, but it gets tricky on big jobs. your from st. louis like me what are you charging a hour? I try to get 40.00 an hour but it has been rough lately. a lot of low ballers

 

[Tmrrptr]

There can be no legitimate price per ft that would apply nationwide.

Too many other factors, state, regional, and local.

Even seasonal and site specific factors must be considered.

 

[Mandrake]

cc

what size is the base molding, how many coats, and what is the material you are using?

are the walls sprayed, backrolled, or brush and roll? how many coats?

Mandrake

 

[ccpainting]

around 8",2 coats, latex, brush and roll, 3 coats on some new drywall spots

 

[Mandrake]

I'll give youy a couple numbers to play with but I have to caution you that they are based on very general production and rate numbers. I do estimating for a few contractors and usually get all my numbers (take-offs) then apply certain production rates and then plug in their rates and profit margins.

Try these numbers on a typical 10'x12'x8' room and see if it works

for 2 coats on 8" base (no filling nail holes) $2.50/ft

for 3 coats on drywall - $.70/sf

let me know what you get I'm curious

Mndk

 

[Tonyg]

Mandrake, I don't mean to hijack the thread but, my brother-in-law currently works for a large construction management company and has done quite a bit of estimating. He asked me a couple weeks ago about estimating for me after hours for a percentage of any awarded jobs.

You said you estimate for several, what type of arrangement is there if I were to hire your services, hypothetically.

 

[Mandrake]

Tonyg

I hate to be obtuse but there's a couple factors that determine how much I get for estimating. Some of the other members could probably help in this regard much better than me

There are 2 commercial contractors I do estimating for. In most cases I actually go to the site (when required) meet with the representatives, go over the plans, ask the questions, make the calls, and then run the numbers. In those cases I am on the clock and have an hourly figure ,$--.00/hr

In a strict case of simply looking at plans, doing a take-off and then crunching some numbers you will probably have to look at some type of graduated system based on job size. I just did a 20k interior commercial remodel estimate that took about 8 hours due to numerous clarifications. It was a fairly complex project. Other 20k jobs might take me 2-4 hours.

A system somewhere around 1% with a bonus for landing the job would probably work - run the numbers and see. It obviously depends upon your region, competition, and profit margins.

Hope this helps. If i can be of any help drop me a private email. I do consulting on a number of areas including safety and management.

Mndrk

 

[Undr_Covr]

Hey Mandrake,

My interests are similar, and am just looking for clarification. Is your compensation 1% of the bid price? How are bonuses structured? As a percentage bid price also? Flat rate?

I am starting to do some take-offs for a painting contractor: basically calculating areas and quantities and putting a package together, and the contractor is going to put the prices to my numbers. How much would you pay someone to do take-offs? He offered me a bonus for jobs we land also, but I don't know what to charge for the work. Hourly? Graduated rate?

 

[johnthepainter]

thanks mandrake, you are a rare breed here.

i applaud you for posting this.

 

[ewingpainting.net]

If you did'nt notice this thread was in dec of 2007.

 

[johnthepainter]

good, that means the going rate is even higher.