[painttofish]

I was wondering how some of you approach spraying trim on new residential work. I have been priming, spray and backroll ceilings, and first coating walls. Then letting the carpenters do their thing. When I come back to spray the trim I have been protecting the walls by running 12'' paper around all window and door moldings. I apply the second coat at the end of the job when everybody else, except carpet guy, is done. My question is, do I need to protect the walls? I most often use acrylics for my trim, but sometimes use oil when I have to. Would the walls flash due to the semi-gloss trim paint getting on them? I have seen jobs (that I have taken over) where the previous painter had sprayed doors that were leaning against the walls and it flashed horribly. I have talked with painters that don't mask the walls and they say it looks fine. I think this guy was mostly doing track homes though. Should I not first coat walls and do two coats after I spray the trim? Any knowledge would be great, and if you have any suggestions on procedure. Thanks, :notworthy:

 

[Workaholic]

All the trim i do is up before i get in the house. I First prep the trim,
I spray and back roll ceiling, spray prime my trim, then sand it down do the finish coat, then cut in and roll walls.
I do not have any problems with flashing.

 

[Rich]

My question is, do I need to protect the walls?

no

only thing you need to be aware of is leaving a definite spray line...but as long as you aren't too thick, you'll be fine if you are 2 coating the walls

 

[NuView Painting]

After all walls are primed I
Spray ceilings never back roll I never had the need to..
Prime all trim with oil
paint all trim with oil
then cut in and roll the walls
I've seen where the flashing takes some time to tone down but after the second coat everything is fine..
I usually use Ben Moore Matte finish and some eggshell I think the the eggshell covers the oil better cause it has a more sheen than the matte finish..

 

[Tmrrptr]

Yes walls will flash from overspray! big time.
Manage the gun better and also allow top of masking paper to roll out away from wall, at top, instead of a hard edge taped against the wall so there is a flow away from wall...
r

 

[painttofish]

thanks for the response guys. It sounds like workaholic, nuview, and rich are putting two coats after the trim paint is sprayed on the primed drywall. My procedure has been getting on the job directly after the sheetrocker to prime, paint ceilings, and first coat walls. Doing it this way, only one coat would be applied over the trim overspray. The benefits are obvious as to putting the first coat prior to trim,floor,cabinets, etc... wondering if anyone else has tried this system without masking around the moldings? Rich, how do you not leave a line when spraying the outside edge of the molding that joins the drywall?

 

[painttofish]

Also, what products do you guys prefer? I use BM matte or egg on walls and Impervo oil or acrylic on trim for custom homes. I sometimes use the super spec line for more modest homes.

 

[Workaholic]

After all walls are primed I
Spray ceilings never back roll I never had the need to..

I just started back rolling ceilings a couple of years ago. The advantage to it is that it touches up better. Also it lays down some drywall fuzz.

My procedure has been getting on the job directly after the sheetrocker to prime, paint ceilings, and first coat walls. Doing it this way, only one coat would be applied over the trim overspray. The benefits are obvious as to putting the first coat prior to trim,floor,cabinets, etc... wondering if anyone else has tried this system without masking around the moldings?

Well some of the wood butchers i follow around would be lost as far where studs would be.
Builders that i work with are pretty decent and do not have cabinets, flooring ect.. scheduled untill i am gone.
Do you not have to cut in around the moldings twice? If not you must be on the same palette huh?

 

[Workaholic]

Also, what products do you guys prefer? I use BM matte or egg on walls and Impervo oil or acrylic on trim for custom homes. I sometimes use the super spec line for more modest homes.

I used to run High gloss industrial enamel when i still used oil. Now i am running ICI durus interior/exterior gloss for interior trim.

 

[NuView Painting]

Also, what products do you guys prefer? I use BM matte or egg on walls and Impervo oil or acrylic on trim for custom homes. I sometimes use the super spec line for more modest homes.

I use either Moore Matte or Egg on walls and Devoe Velour on Trim..

 

[painttofish]

Work, I have been masking around the moldings after the first coat of wall paint like I stated. My question was, if I don't mask around the casings, will the wall flash? I understand I would still have to put two coats around the moldings. Sounds like those of you who spray do the trim first, spray onto primed drywall, and two coat after. Tmrrptr, have you had a flashy experience doing it this way?

 

[painttofish]

New, how is the velour. Better than Impervo? I haven't used much Devoe, what about interior latex or exterior coatings?

 

[Tmrrptr]

Yes. if you don't mask around the trim, the product that gets on the rock will change it's texture and it will look different... and then we got flashing when they sprayed casings with the pump turned up and blew overspray past the masking, which flashed on the flat walls.
r

 

[painttofish]

Thanks r, This is what I have seen also but from doors being sprayed against the rock. I don't mask above the base and I have no issues there. What products are you using. what about using egg on the walls instead of flat?

 

[Workaholic]

I don't spray doors against the wall either.

 

[Tmrrptr]

That was all when we did tract work... done, and gone now. hasta bye bye.

It was contractor grade SW product. cheapest we could get from them.

Wall? Ha! We used to spray doors on the helpers boots, with him holding the door. Flip it around, do other side, and he could duck walk it over to the wall and lean it with a paint stick nailed to the top with a drywall nail.

Flash wasn't really a problem. Everything was so beat up by the other trades by completion, sometimes we had to repaint them!

All done.
No more tract work.
r