ok RC, My father was a union painter in the SF bay area 1970's, always been around "The painting" we moved in 77 to the east coast, I worked summers during high school painting, on jobs my dad lined up for me, He steered me towards college like the GREAT dad he is, I tried community college, it wasnt for me at that time, worked a modular home factory 5 years then it closed down in 1990 and started my buisness.